right On 21, his second solo album, the former face of B2K attempts to solidify his growth as an artist, and also his growth as a person, but he’s in a state of arrested development. Unlike fellow soul young’uns Ne-Yo and Chris Brown—equipped with better pipes and pens—Omarion lacks range, both emotional and vocal. On the saccharine “The Making of You,” O struggles with the overdone when-a-woman’s-fed-up premise. The same can be said of the regretful friends-turned-lovers tale “What Are We Doing.” And on “Midnight,” a song about cheating, Omarion clumsily belts his lines, sounding detached enough from the lyrics to be telling someone else’s story.
But O does have his lustrous moments—like when he tries gaming a girl by risibly telling her, “I bet you never thought I’d wash my dishes,” on the rollicking “Have You Ever Been With
a Star.” And when he insists, on both the ’80s-pop-synth-infused “Entourage” and the sensual “Needs,” that he’d forgo fame, luxuries, and crew for a special love, he achieves a rare sincerity. It’s not clear, though, why he refers to himself as King O - Omarion is never fully in charge.
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Comments
1.
destiny says:
man how do u get a body like that i swear u got a body i like u, u is sexy and my mom love u........L.O.L....
October 24, 2007 at 1:42 pm
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Kevin says:
Omarion's vocal range isn't very large but I do think he does well within his his two octaves or so. However I completely disagree with the comment saying that Michael Jacksons vocal range isn't very large. His was over 3 octaves reaching from middle 2 notes well into d5 without struggle, although a good octave range definately doesn't make a good singer.. sorry mariah
August 10, 2007 at 12:50 am
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Jasmine says:
i have to say that i disagree with this article tho he may not have tha soul in his voice that ne-yo does he is a powerful singer. I think his sophmore solo album shows that he can range from different levels in songs
August 4, 2007 at 11:30 pm
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Kisha says:
Your review was wack and disrespectful your view of him is bs. Omarion has way more talent then you are giving him credit for. He is one of the hottest male r&b artists and to have been through the things he has, your not giving him enough credit. Personally i love all his songs on "21" and as for Omarion's voice...he has a perfectly nice voice tone and he does not lack tack talent at all. He's just as good as a singer as Chris Brown or NeYo
June 18, 2007 at 11:25 am
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Lisa says:
What you said about the album was a little too harsh. I mean, to be honest, I actually thought the "O" album was better than the 21 album, but I still believe there were some pretty good tracks on 21. And it's fine that you have your own opinion, but a lot of the stuff you said in that review was uncalled for. I mean, think about all of the other artists who don't have a large vocal range. For example, Ciara. Not to bash on Ciara, but I honestly don't think she has such a great voice, but look at all of the publicity she gets; as well as all of the support she gets. It may be because she's a great dancer, but so is Omari. So you can't just go and attack his vocal range, especially by comparing it to Chris Brown's. Now I love Chris, but like Ciara and Omarion, I believe his dancing is so much better than his singing. So no comparison there. But overall your review was way too harsh. This is only Omari's second album without the other B2K members. Why not cut him some slack like all other performers? And most of it is probably due to TUG anyway.
June 18, 2007 at 10:19 am
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chance Mclien says:
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June 1, 2007 at 9:15 am
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Scottie Barnett says:
Omarion , is just a pretty face with pro-tools attached to it. He's a great dancer but as far as him being Marvin Gaye it just aint happening.
May 21, 2007 at 10:20 am
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KEVETTA BELL says:
HE SUCKS I MEAN IM GLAD THE GROUP BROKE UP MAYBE HE CAN CRY HIMSELF TO DEATH BECAUSE HE SUCKED THAT BAD. HEY OMARION GO KILL YOUR SELF YOU OVER HYPED DICKHEAD.
May 10, 2007 at 1:32 pm
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April 3, 2007 at 8:57 am
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Lil Roc aka Mrs Omari says:
All yall gurls that is on my man fall back as i mentioned he is my my my my my my man
March 17, 2007 at 10:24 pm
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ms philly says:
i think this album deserves a better review..ppl are claimin his vocal range isnt that strong but i can count a million and one singers who's vocal range is practically non-existent. i just think that his b2k days have left him with a stigma, one that just becuz he was in a boygroup that he's unable to mature and be the artist he's capable of being. michael jackson, ciara, janet jackson, aaliyah, cassie and many others dont have the largest vocal range yet ppl are willing to cut them slack, how much of a double standard is that? truth be known that Omarion has charisma, charm and dancing abilities that will out do any form of doubt when it comes to his 'range' ... so what ever the case, if ppl think that this album is 'weak' let me tell u that he's gonna outselll and carring on being blessed with or without ppls approval. stay blessed and prosper. im out.
March 16, 2007 at 11:34 pm
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Gabrielle says:
Omarion is the only star that I listen to because I love him so much.
I really want to see him. I go to almost every concert of he's and still have'nt met him. I bought both of his CD'S the first day they came out. So can you make my dream come truth and let me met you one day. I LOVE YOU with big letter that show you how much I love you. Have A Good Day.
March 13, 2007 at 2:06 pm
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antonette tinker says:
hey y'all i juswant 2 say tat i am a big fan of omarion n i feel soooooo sorri 4 him n 4 wat he has been through... i jus cannot not think of da things he has been through
March 5, 2007 at 6:07 pm
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Zara age 15 says:
Hey your review about Omarion was harsh.Omarion has been through a lot and probably wanted to express his feelings in some way.I dont blame Omarion coz i've been through a lot in my life and i'm thinking about writing a book one day.It would mean the world to me if i met him.
February 27, 2007 at 9:18 am
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daisy says:
hhmm., for whats its worth i thought i shuld get my 2cents in. Personally i dont believe that your review was a true reflection maybe like i you have other alterior interests, mine being i practically worship the ground that boy walks on being doing so for 7 years now! You id understand if you were doing one of those comparitive studies that involve research and such but i think you were just writing cause well as a matter of fact you could not realising the power of that ink you have and i hope that everybody writin here and gettin up in your face will make you think next time!
February 26, 2007 at 12:34 pm
16.
tyquest says:
oh my god he look so cute thatz my baby one day im going to meet him
February 19, 2007 at 10:37 am
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d says:
i think the album is ok, not great some tracks on there should have been dropped... they were kind of corny. predictable is one word that can be used. thank god for pharrell & timberland they kind of saved the album... omarion can do better he just needs freedom from that tight ass mangement. i hope he leaves them sooner rather than later.
February 4, 2007 at 9:06 pm
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anon says:
omarion needs to leave TUG entertainment they are a bunch of brain washers... he knows it but is most probably scared at what he'll lose. if he wants to be more of a success and learn how to fly without people telling him what to eat [no chicken!]etc he needs to leave TUG in the dust and chris stokes and taz esp taz that wacko!!!! i feel sorry for him, he's put up with a lot. Omari i'm prayin for u. but yea i agree with the review.... ice box was cool though but come on..... this review was honest.
February 4, 2007 at 9:00 pm
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ISHA says:
i think "o" is the sexy boy on god's green earth
February 2, 2007 at 7:09 pm
20.
hsam says:
ass girls sex
January 30, 2007 at 7:54 am
21.
Taneka king says:
I would love to get a VIBE I Love Omarion and the music to I Love VIBE
January 28, 2007 at 10:06 pm
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Symone says:
i think that wat u says is totally unreasonable because to me Omarion has the voice to melt any girls heart and the singing of emotional songs Omarion does a hell of alot Better than chris brown and Ne-yo i'm not tryin to talk bad about them but thats just my opinion so u can take what i said into consideration or u can shove it.Have You Ever Been With a Star is my favorite song and for you to talk bad about the songs makes me upset because every body doesn't express there love or themselves the same way as others.Omarion happens to be one of the best love expressing person to write a song since Gerald Levert, luther Vandross, Barry White, and many more. For omarion to actually express his deep true feelings that many of us might not kno about gets 2 thumbs up and 5 stars in my book. To me CB only talk about mostly teenage relationships and omarion is older than CB and more experinced and for you to put them in the same category you got issues.
January 28, 2007 at 7:13 pm
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shardese says:
this is shardese i did not like what you sad about omarion that not right and dont ever say that shit agin omarion is a better then chris brown omarion been out way befor them he been thought alot stuff in his life but i did not like what you said about my boo Omarion but whould i be right trying to get your ass fired no i whould not but if see this shit in vibe no one can save your ass now and yeah wait till i send this to ever one that love omarion you better watch your back and yeah omarion cd 21 is a good cd i can really tell that he growen up alot into a man by the way he talk the why he dress
January 25, 2007 at 9:16 pm
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Amrita says:
Damien. . i'm not even going to voice my opinions on how i view omarion as an artist . . instead . . lets review your review. For you to say that the subjects of omarion's tracks are over done is b.s. Neyo and chris brown, hell any singer thats ever sung about love in any genre will always have the girl-meets-boy theme, the we've-come-to-an-end theme, the themes that crop up again and again in relationships. Thats not his fault thats just the way love goes. And for you, as a professional writer, to end a review with the line that you did, shows that maybe you yourself are in a state of 'arrested development', cos that sure doesn't show any maturity. Don't get personal like that, keep to the facts, keep your claws in, and maybe your next review won't receive such a wack backlash.
January 16, 2007 at 9:51 pm
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Mario says:
didn't expect that from vibe! haters... O's 21 is actually his best work to date in my opiniion... and midnight is my favourite track ever! stop hating and start writing solid stuff instead of stuff thats gonna sell ur mag... as u can see everyone has posted on the same lines as me...
January 10, 2007 at 5:12 pm
26.
Erica says:
OMARION iz perfectly fine tha way he iz baby boo!! He's been in tha game since he was CB's age and before that even. Get yo facts rite!! Plus all tha ladies can tell ya why he's called King O! I respect yo opinion but saying stuff unfair to a person who's been in the game for 8 years is disrespectable.
January 9, 2007 at 9:12 pm
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shaina says:
aka omari boo! o isn't looking for a 1 night fling he look for a girl he can settle down with not some one crazy like you he cantell ur show him some luv but he wants a girl who friendly who dosen't care about the fame only care bout the love so givin out ur num can cause a rapes to call u this is vibe it might be a chance he'll read all of this but might not respond all of us would be lucy
January 8, 2007 at 6:54 pm
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shaina says:
omarion try he does not lack it year he gets better in his craft i can tell when i listen to his songs u can feel what he is say in all his songs from the first album to his second album you know notthing about O he calls him self king because omari means king on means forever king forever.i believe omari can do great thing in his life,he was bless with a voice from god,so what if ne-yo or chris can sing high they can out do o he put his personal life and sitution in his music can't you tell!that what makes his music is so i amazing.
January 8, 2007 at 6:46 pm
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mariO says:
Hey I too have to disagree with your review, Omarion is one of the best performers out there and by far the best dancer out of them all. I think he can sing really well but since he has that mild rusty sounding voice (can't find the exact description but you know what I mean), he can't really hit high notes that well and he really has to force it out and does it well. You know he sings from the heart though and thats why I and many others love him.
January 6, 2007 at 10:16 am
30.
iva aka omar's boo says:
hey boo just showing you some love and let you knoe that i am "1" of your fans luv ya bo her is my nuber in letters 4185310 plz call me plz plz call if you eva get on her eva and it iz my cell so fill free to call me wen eva you would like omg i just cant stop typing i LOVE you so much and if you aint king "O" dont even call cuz i no wat he sound like baby if you eva come to the ville louisville hit me up cuz igot this ice box were my heart use to be ps. im so cold.............really.
January 5, 2007 at 7:25 am
31.
charday says:
wuz up omarion dis be ya best girl charday just want to let you know that i love your singing and i will always. and to let you know to keep during wat you do best. i love you
p.s dont let me down
sexy u
January 4, 2007 at 7:37 am
32.
Brandy says:
First of all, who tha hell are you to be dissing somebody's cred. We don't know anything about you exept for one thing, you're a jerk and frankly I dn't aprieciate you calling somebody's album bad, when to everybody else, it's good. Apparently, IT'S JUST YOU THAT DON'T HAVE A GOOD TASTE IN MUSIC. That girl akyra is sooo right.....you wouldnt now talent if it bit you in the ass. All the haters, *Cough, cough DAMIEN* leave the room. And Omari, don't listen to this simple minded egotistical bastard who started this whole spill. It's just he can't be you and wants to be, a lot f hating and jealousy. And I bought the album. If you actually sit and listen with out judging the album beforehand, and not having animosity against the person you might like it. And I bet O is sexier than you. Get a life and stop talking about people, hating is not a good look for you sir. I don't even see why Vibe, chose you. You obviously don't have respect for other people, (not that we ever respected you, its just a point trying to be made here)or taste in music. I don't see you up there, spilling your whole personal experiances into song and dance. Exactly what I thought. Just think before you disrespect somebody, especially if they're doing bigger and better things than you. You might write a check that your ass can't cash.....
You feel me? I didn't think so Damien. And you call yourself a 'critically ecclaimed reviewer'. Just a bunch of bull shit if you ask me.
Holla.
*B33B33*
January 3, 2007 at 6:20 pm
33.
meg says:
is this cd out yet if it is im so going to buy ...i wonder if that song man up is on it or not ?!!
January 2, 2007 at 6:42 pm
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joy says:
oh my gosh thats such a lil any one who has omarion new cd know that it slap..the songs i like the most is elecric,made for tv,midnight,jut that sexy,beg for it and what are we doing (my baby has flows)... dont because omari is the man
January 2, 2007 at 5:39 pm
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Shavon says:
Wow!! who ever wrote this reveiw needs to be slapped! 21 is and will be a great cd forever!! so stop the hating on Omari! he can sing his ass off! have u heard Made 4 tv he shows his ranges in that song and icebox!! wow once again chill out before u say such untrue things!!
January 2, 2007 at 2:18 pm
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Lena says:
well I think its cool he is your favorite artist but dont act like he is the best R&B singer in the world becuase i have to admit i like omarions last cd but neyo's music just flows better and i dont like any of the songs on this new album are that good. he is a really good dancer and you can say that damien cant judge him because he isnt out there singing but think about it. you know when someone cant sing very well and you know you dont want to hear them. you dont have to know how to sing to tell someone they need help in that department. damien has ears omarion just uses his sex appeal to win over teen girls who will go out to buy his albums . think about it
January 2, 2007 at 12:56 am
37.
akyra says:
well mr.damien you wouldnt now talent if it bit you in the ass.if you actually listened and payed attention to omarion songs and personality you would see how much he matured though out the years since he'd been in the game.so you writting unecessary things about this man[not boy ,man]when you should be listening to O's cd and getting your facts and opinions striaght.im not saying you cant have your own opinion but dont come out trying to dis his talents like that.if you aint doing what he's doing you should'nt be saying nothing.And im on that real shit
December 29, 2006 at 12:19 pm
38.
lisa says:
yo.. you all know "O" is gay right? Shit thats why they call him king "O".. Good album though..
December 29, 2006 at 3:13 am
39.
Melody says:
I disagree with this review!!!!!!!The 21 cd is great. It is very adult and easy to relate to. I listen to it constantly at work and in my car. I even downloaded a few of the songs onto my cell phone to listen when I am walking around the house. Omarion has done it again and is to be commended not hated on.
December 28, 2006 at 8:19 am
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Neca says:
First off I dont totally agree with the author of this article, but i dont exactly disagree. I was a huge fan of B2K and their music. I do think Omarion is probably is trying to grow as an artist but COME ON!!! He's grown and still making music for 15 & 16 year old girls and though i am 15 i dont see his music as being all that i see it as being sugar coated pop, i expected that from B2K, they were teenagers. As you age, your fans age, and as that happens your music is supposed to evolve. What is he going to do when his fans grow up? But of course i still support him so i'll get my grumma to buy his cd for me. And his singing isnt completely horrible but i have heard better. Someone said something about Omarion opening doors for Sammie but its actually the other way around Sammie first came around 7 years ago and was really successful but put his career on hold for school and i guess a normal childhood.
December 27, 2006 at 11:28 pm
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Brandi says:
I think everyone can have an opinion but to sit there and say hurtful things is another thing. I love the 21 album I think every track on it is awesome. He def. improved vocally in my book. And you can feel and hear the emotion in his voice. WTF Neyo and CB I'm not trying to sound anyway but Chris Brown sounds like a b**ch and Neyo writing skills aren't that damn great his voice isn't all that too me it reminds me of USHER at least omarion voice is original. I'll choose Omarion over them any day!
December 27, 2006 at 10:45 am
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OMARION'S FAN says:
FIRST OFF OMARION IS VERY TALENTED. N UR SAYIN HE'S NOT BELTIN OUT NOTES LIKE CHRIS BROWN..CHRIS HAS A HIGHER PITCH VOICE WHILE OMARION HIS MORE OF A BARITONE VOICE WHICH DOESN'T ALLOW HIM 2 HIT VERY HIGH NOTES. OMARION CD IS VERY GOOD!!! SO YALL WRITERS NEED 2 STOP HATEN CUZ CAN ANY OF YALL DO WHAT HE DOES AS GOOD AS HIM??? OH YEA HOW CAN HE BE SINGIN SOMEBODY ELSE SONG WHEN HE WROTE LIKE HALF OF THE SONGS SOOO. ANYWAY IM NOT GOIN 2 WORRY ABOUT WHAT YALL SAYIN CUZ HE'S A VERY GOOD ARTIST N HE'S GOOD AT WHAT HE DOES. OMARION DO U DONT WORRY ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE!!!
December 27, 2006 at 9:05 am
43.
****** says:
ALL I HAVE SAY IS OMARION IS VERY GOOD SINGER. N HIS CD 21 IS VERY GOOD.
December 27, 2006 at 9:03 am
44.
Sherdeana says:
OK, u untittled ta ya own opinion, but i aint never heard or u b4 and ive heard of alotta writers. im sure if u go up to sumboday n say "u ever heard of omarion?" theyll say yea, regardless if they like him or not. BUT if they sed yo punk ass name, no one would kno who the f**k im talkin about cuz noone likes you cuz uz a hater!omari is on his grown man and i think u needa act like one instead of a punk ass reporter. im listen to the 21 CD right now and b4 i read yo review, i thought that Midnight was mah favorite song. so chill out on O and take ya dick out ya ass n give him some props b**ch!
December 26, 2006 at 2:48 pm
45.
asia davis says:
Wat up Omari Ishmeal Grandberry dis yo girl Asia Davis soon to be Asia Grandberry. Anyways i'm yo biggest fan. I been hoping I can meet u some day,but as forwards as this time my mom will not buy me any tickets,but i'm not trippin doe.I really can't wait to get yo new cd .I REALLY love u wit all my heart. Love yo girl Asia[Grandberry]
December 25, 2006 at 6:44 pm
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Faith says:
Hi Demien, Don't feel bad and you are entitled your own opinion. But at the same time, Let's not judge anybody including celebrities. But I feel ya Damien. Once I was a big Omarion Fan but O did some stuff that is totally uncool. I know D. I know. Most of all, after what he did to Raz, Fizz, and Boog of B2K. I still inside, I still got love for O. I'm going to cop that album on the 26th. Better yet, i'm getting the LP. We must give it to him, he got talent. But at the same time, I feel ya Damien, I feel ya.
Signed,
Not much of O fan anymore.
December 23, 2006 at 11:42 pm
47.
charmaine says:
mr. damien u f**kin pig . for ur information omarion is extremely talented. not even jus in his dance steps but in his vocals. damien u can suck my f**kin dick even tho i dont have one but ur a piece of a shit and i hope u think before u speak next time cus ur dumb ass probably cant sing . yea ur entitled 2 ur own opinion but quite frankly i dont give a f**k wut u got 2 say . so u can take this mutha f**kin interview and shove this piece of shit up ur faggot ass. and im goin 2 omarions tour tomoro and its gonna b bangin . and if i ever saw u i wud spit in ur face. f**k u damien
December 21, 2006 at 3:22 pm
48.
kenya says:
i just got one request 4 u ~damien scott~ GO PICK UP OMARIONS ALBUM ON DA 26 AND I BET U ,U WOULD NEVA TALK MESS AGAIN CUZ DAT ALBUM IS ON POINT!!!!!! SO JUS CUT DA SHIT OUT ..AND GO TO ..OMARIONONLINE.COM AND COOL OFF BY LISTENING 2 ICE BOX CUZ U GETTING A LIL 2 HOTT ...CRAZY ASS ..DONT EVA LET SUM SHIT LIKE DAT POP OUT UR MOUTH AGAIN..REMEMBER EVERYBODY..GET THE ALBUM!!!!!
December 18, 2006 at 5:39 pm
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tiana says:
hmm omarion may not be the best singer at times his voice is very whiney... but i disagree with this review, his vocals have improved and the songs on this album are 10 times better than the mess he did with b2k etc. he's maturing, ice box is by far his best song yet. i think his reputation as a teen star has kinda tarnished some ppls views considering his talent... yea he WAS real manufactured when he 1st came out but he's stepping up now, i mean give credit where its due, its a pleasent album to play through not fantastic or dope but its cool not the total mess that u claimed it to be....
BUT i do agree with ur last statment, i dont think his managment have let him fly yet... theres some major leashes when it comes to chris stokes.
December 18, 2006 at 6:29 am
50.
TONI says:
FIRST OF ALL O IS TALENTED AS HELL TO TELL U THE TRUTH HE IS HOTEST DANCER SCENCE USHER TO A BREAK FROM THE SCENE YA DIG DAMIEN SCOTT!. O IS A UNIVERSAL DANCER HE DOSEN'T HAVE JUST ONE STYLE OF DANCING HE CAN DO IT ALL THE DUDE IS VERY VERSATILE ANY DANCE SYLE THAT IS OUT HE PRETTY MUCH CAN DO IT ALL!.. AND HIS VOICE TO ME IS MATUREING AND SOUNDS BETTER EACH TIME HE STEPS IN THE RECORDING BOOTH U CAN TELL. BUT WHAT I LIKE ABOUT HIM IS THAT HE DOSEN'T JUST SING BUT HE SINGS FROM THE HEART!... P.S. U GIVING VIBE MAGAZINE A BAD NAME!... I SEE U GOT HATE IN YOUR BLOOD!
December 13, 2006 at 1:25 am
51.
stacia says:
HATER ALERT HATER ALERT HATER ALERT
thats all imma say cause i dont wanna hurt ya feelins lol(i lil repoter tryna talk about somebody who got way more bank than he do lol)i think its cause he got talent what bout' yall?
December 10, 2006 at 12:17 pm
52.
Laura October says:
I agree with what the other three girls said. I believe Omarion is a very talented artist, and you have your own views of him and that's fine, but you shouldn't speak about him that way. He truly doesn't deserve all of that crap you were saying about him, so you need to tone that down.
December 10, 2006 at 12:17 pm
53.
malaya says:
i agree wit all of yall and if you actually knew anything about omarion you would know that he's talented and no matter how many bad reviews he gets his FANS will always hold him down and the King O remark was a cheap shot who cares what you think about his nick name, and besides i think he calls hisself King O because his real name Omari means african king lol do ya get it? but anewayz i love his songs and i like midnight so skip you and the c,d drops december 26 and imma be in walmart copping me one...hell i might get two (want one) lol
December 10, 2006 at 12:15 pm
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*|Jasmine|* from the omariononline message board says:
I think you dont know what your talking. For one O sound perfectly fine singing that song.Just because hes tryna do things different dosent mean u can go and talk BS on his work.So wat if hes not doing what Ne Yo and Chris Brown,he aint them.Hes his own man.So instead of bashing his work you should be congradulating him on his work and how well his cd is going to do because you better belive his album is gonna be # 1.
O IF YOUR READING THIS DONT LET THIS BS GET YOU DOWN CAUSE NO MATTER THESE MAGIZINES SAY WERE STILL BUY THE ALBUM(WELL ATLEAST I AM)
December 10, 2006 at 11:40 am
55.
kassidy says:
i agree with tiffany you are entitled to your own opinion but bashing omarion like that was not appropriate. All you had to state was you dont like him, dont insult his talent unless you have an album come out that sales more copies than his will. Oh and by the way I understand why he calls hisself King O....BECAUSE HE CAN!
December 10, 2006 at 11:11 am
56.
Tiffanie says:
Damien u have a opinion about O's range can u sing or even hold a note..damn you writers don't understand jack..but puttin a pen to a paper and spreading untrue shi** about stars!!!I feel O deserve some love and respect not only did he open doors for b**ches lik Chris,NE-YO,Sammie and other ppl...but im glad u feel tha way u feel can't satisfy every ungrateful b**ch!!
December 5, 2006 at 4:58 pm