CIVIL WRITES: No Mo’
VIBE.COM By: Vibe Posted 2-9-2010 3:11 pm

Anybody whose had the opportunity to talk cinema with me over the last couple of months know I’m not a big fan of the movie Precious: Based on the novel ‘Push’ by Sapphire. I don’t hate the movie but I do have some issues with a bit of the flick’s intention, production and execution––beginning way before the opening credits. My largest gripe stems from the casting. I think for an African-American director––who must be aware of the historical misrepresentation of Blacks in Hollywood as well as the scarce roles accessible to his race––to have each “negative” character played by an actor of darker skin and every positive character be of fairer skin is extremely irresponsible. Now I’ve read my share of “interesting” quotes from Lee Daniels and have heard even crazier things, but this supposed imbalance of complexion appears far too blatant to be excused as a faux pas.

Think about the cast. Team positive: the beautiful and angelic teacher (Paula Patton); social worker (Mariah Carey); even the male nurse––caring and handsome enough to leave Sherri Shephard’s character speechless (Lenny Kravitz). Then there’s Team Negative: Precious the victim. Her father the faceless yet very pigmented boogieman. Her despicable mother portrayed by Mo’Nique. Possibly even more criminal is that I’ve heard in the novel Push (I never read it) those positive characters aren’t of fairer skin. Hollywood strikes again?

Once more, I wanna be clear that I’m not a hater of the movie Precious…; just not a huge fan. But when Mo’Nique began receiving immense praise for her performance, I became a hater. Now she’s nominated for the grandest trophy in cinema. I don’t get it. I do feel she gave a quality performance but I didn’t see her sadistic mother portrayal as such a stretch. The role in its essence was of an angry black woman. Is it so difficult to picture Mo’Nique angry, mean and loud? She launched her fame off of those characteristics. Hell, her initial stand-up routine and book (Skinny Women Are Evil) expressed hate towards women who weren’t fat (she’s looking slimmer than ever these days! Will she become self-loathing?).

Aside from that single Precious… scene in the social worker’s office, where Mo’Nique gave us a look at her emotional range, I don’t see how you put her in the same league as Tilda Swinton or Penelope Cruz. The aforementioned actresses took home the last two supporting actress Oscars and deserved ‘em unquestionably. Three years ago Tilda Swinton tucked away her British accent, docile persona and a bit of her age to give George Clooney his morally callous nemesis in the superb Michael Clayton. The following year Penelope Cruz gave us a tornado of Latin fire as Javier Bardem’s violently passionate lover. Both actresses work: grade A. Why? You saw neither actress in those movies, just their character.

So if Mo’Nique’s Precious… performance is Oscar worthy than so was DMX’s in Belly. Both played exaggerated characters…of themselves.

You disagree?

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Bonsu Thompson has accomplished more in his career than most journalists dream of. The Rolling Stone 2001 “Hot Interviewer” has penned for mags like Details, XXL, Penthouse, SLAM and KING as well as notable brands such as MTV, VH1, Rocawear and Translation.

 

 

 

 

 

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Guy Routte says: Wow, harsh but true. The DMX line was cold. Hollywood is always going to reward black pain and black psychosis which is why Halle won for monsters ball and Denzel for Training Day. I haven't seen Precious and have no intention of seeing it, it's just not what I want to spend my time on.
Posted 02-09-2010 03:22 pm
Candace Smith says: Bonsu!!! I agree 100%. I walked away from Precious frustrated about the casting. Beyond the skin color, the casting was not at all believable. Paula Patton as this beautiful, fair-skinned modelesque teacher at an alternative school in hood? come on! As for Monique, I again agree 100% and am so happy to know that I am not the only one who believes this role was not a stretch for her.
Posted 02-09-2010 03:54 pm
NYC Neef says: I didn't even pay attention to that dark skin/light skin/positive/negative reference. That is a great observation. Even when you think about it the (imaginary) boyfriend was kinda light as well. I am not sure many folks reached beneath the tough surface of the movie to examine that but it is a very good point.
Posted 02-09-2010 03:58 pm
KTS says: I havent seen it yet so I can't judge whether is was a stretch or not. i will say this though, the context in which you describe the color coded casting isn't that surprising. It just isn't.
Posted 02-09-2010 04:09 pm
Brooklyn Ice says: Well (thumbs up again B) and Guy pretty much took the words out of my mouth. We aren't rewarded in Hollywood for playing roles that aren't consistent with who we are, through the media's eyes. That's the angry black women, the ain't shit black man and then the occasional "he/she got up out the hood and made it" types, that aren't ever really rewarded. If that were the case, Denzel would have won for Hurricane or X for that matter, and if 'Queen' had actually been made for the big screen, I would have loved to see Halle awarded for that. *sigh*
Posted 02-09-2010 04:09 pm
EDJ says: Finally. Someone said it. Not only am I not a fan of this movie, I'm not a fan of Lee Daniels' work... which I find to have similar issues/implications with race (and gender) which you've mentioned. So over - as Guy put it - Hollywood's preoccupation with rewarding black pain and psychosis... Oh, Bonsu- I could go on and on about this... But thank you for opening this particular dialogue.
Posted 02-09-2010 04:13 pm
Bonsu Thompson says: Hanif! Totally forgot about the imaginary boyfriend (I mean, what teenage girl in the '80's wasn't starry eyed for lightskin dude wit' good hair?). But I didn't even mention the school's shiftless (and ultimately hard up) receptionist being dark skin (Sherri Shephard). Nor Paula Patton's lesbian and benevolent lover being light skin. By the way what happened to that actress? Haven't seen her since Different World.
Posted 02-09-2010 04:23 pm
Inettia says: OMG soooo TRUE Bonsu, like Denzel he won his Oscar for "Training Day" (bad gut criminal cop) Halle Berry " Moster Ball" (got dicked out and treated her son like shit) Why are black actors winning Oscars for movies were the play the Bad guy when both Denzel and Halle played phenomenal roles with other positive character's. the only black actor to win a Oscar for something positive in current time is Jamie Foxx for "Ray".
Posted 02-09-2010 04:33 pm
Inettia says: I forgot Jennifer Hudson "Dream Girls" (positive as well Oscar win)
Posted 02-09-2010 04:36 pm
Chery Seinfeld says: Bon, I've never been a Mo'Nique fan, so I could be mistaken, but I've known her to be loud, but not mean and angry. She always comes off as pretty jolly and I think that's what took people off guard. It was surprising to see her pull off a character so disgusting that the viewer hated her. Now, I agree, Mo'Nique is by no means an actress the caliber of Tilda Swinton or Penelope Cruz. But does an actress deserve the Oscar more than her this year? If so, point to the performance and I'll gladly check it out. I'm definitely not on the pro Mo'Nique boat, but I do think she delivered a solid performance in that movie, whether it was easy to pull off or not, it was convincing. Keep the good posts coming, homie.
Posted 02-09-2010 05:37 pm
TAJrani says: Thank you for bringing the truth to light. The movie was something like a modern day minstrel show in my eyes, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Academy gives the award to Mo'Nique. Her acting was solid, just like Halle's was in "Monster's Ball" where she was smutted out and Denzel's was when he played a gangster cop in "Training Day." All great performances, all stereotypes fulfilled, all something that we as Black people should try to shy away from whenever possible. Keep the thought-provoking and honest posts coming, I definitely appreciate it and love reading.
Posted 02-09-2010 05:56 pm
a917 says: So true TAJrani - enough of the stereotypes!
Posted 02-09-2010 06:00 pm
a917 says: Mo'nique should stick to comedy, and I think it's pretty ridiculous that she is up for an Oscar. Although I haven't seen the movie I just can't see how the role of an overweight, loud mouthed, couch potato would be all that hard for her to pull off, let alone oscar worthy. I have read the book, but can't say i'm dying to see the flick, especially after learning about the blatant dark is bad, light is good message. I say dark is gooooooooooooooood! ;)
Posted 02-09-2010 05:57 pm
Machinko! says: i do agree abt the good vs bad / white vs black dynamic in the film for sure. I can't say i disagree about the Oscar nod being a stretch, or about it being a result of Hollywood's celebration of the portrayal of black psychosis. That said, the movie was real, and important to me. This blog isn't about the movie itself, though, so i'll keep my opinions in my own (forthcoming) blog. thanks for the lead- in, B!
Posted 02-09-2010 06:57 pm
Lishka says: I read the book in 99' and also saw the movie. From what I remember, in the book, the Social Worker was a white woman, not sure about the teacher, but she definitely a lesbian. Precious would often describe them how she saw them in her mind. She described where she thought they lived, what type of environment their house hold was. All was in very much contrast to hers. Precious associated light skin / white as better and happier, and associated w/black as bad. (In the book) At least from what I remember. So in Lee Daniels defense, he was trying to keep the story as close as possible to what was written in the book. But I totally agree with you on how black actor/actresses are portrayed in Hollywood. Totally agree. But there is that fine line between working, and not working. So in order to pay their light bill, get exposure, or an Oscar nod, they do what they do best play themselves.
Posted 02-10-2010 12:10 am
ShaynaD says: Interesting view on the film that I haven't heard before. Almost everything I've read so far praises Mo'nique for her performance. Must admit, I haven't seen the movie (glad I'm not the only one - I see you a917!) ...maybe I'll have more to say after I do.
Posted 02-10-2010 01:43 am
1/2 Amazing says: Speak on IT! Great observation B! About time someone put it out there. This has been going on forever and a day and quite frankly I find society has been brain washed to accept it as the norm. It’s sad but true, from "Princess and the Frog" to Tyler Perry's tired stereo typical movies. I mean c'mon, enough is enough. And although J Hudson may be classified as a "positive" role in Dream Girls, she was the jaded character out of her and LIGHT SKINNED Beyonce'. Keep it up! Your blogs keep my night alive at work :-) lol
Posted 02-10-2010 03:11 am
1/2 Amazing says: uhm vibe needs a "blog bouncer" to handle spam comments from "sexycindy" and friends!
Posted 02-10-2010 03:13 am
a917 says: word! what's up with that tr*ck.....!? lol
Posted 02-10-2010 10:51 am
Iamthenewblack says: To me, Precious (G. Sidibe) was the most powerful and positive character in the movie. A young girl who drew inner strength from who knows where and raised her self from her present situation. I don't know ilf I would characterize Mariah Carey's character as positive. She was doing her job and in the end she really couldn't help the situation. Paula Patton was probably the most 'positive' character in the movie but painting characters as positive and negative is tricky anyway. I must disagree about Mo'nique's performance, she deserves the acclaim. She was not an angry black woman in the role, she was a mentally ill mother. Big Difference. What's done is done Precious made it to the Oscars and Mo'nique will win. How about lets critique the sad state of music(no talent, very few dark skin video models, and the fact thatif you are not Alicia Keys or Beyonce you can't win a grammy.) It's kind of sick that the two biggest R and B artists are light-skinned with long hair while Ledisi, Chrisette Michele, India.Arie, Georgia Anne Muldrow etc. get pushed to the background. How about a post regarding that?
Posted 02-10-2010 08:53 am
Bonsu Thompson says: Gotta disagree about Mariah's character. She was the one who had the power to relieve the mother of her public assistance, which in turn liberated Precious and her ill baby. And the mother was VERY angry (as expressed in Mo-Nique's best scene in social worker's office)––she was angry that her husband chose to touch Precious sexually instead of her ("That was my man"), angry that she had to tap dance on visits by the government just to receive money and she was angry that her grandchild was mentally handicapped (because her husband chose to touch her daughter instead of her). And lastly, what's done is indeed done but that doesn't mean we should stop shedding light on a crime because it was already committed. We're trying to prevent this from happening again or at least as much in the future. Imagine if civil rights leaders would've adopted that mind state. Grammy bias would be the least of your concerns.
Posted 02-10-2010 09:34 am
golden says: Ok, Bonsu - I dig/respect your view as well as SOME of the others...this withstanding, and I KNOW that i'm REACHING - BUT - I've been working on a movie idea based on a much left out piece of african american history (literally), obviously starring (hopefully) african american actors/actresses that involves NO GANG VIOLENCE, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, DRUG USE/SELLING, ADULTERY, amongst other things that elicites Hollywood to produce/display our beloved stars in the stereotypical roles this blog entry is focused on...can you legitimately assist in ANY way? and believe me brother this is not an attempt to call you out or anything disrespectful in any manner...i simply dont have access to the resources necessary for this movie to ever see the light of day... if so, how can I get you my personal email to share the idea w/ you?...in any event, thanks for reading/responding...stay safe and keep on pushing the word/
Posted 02-10-2010 11:07 am
Maria says: I read the article and the issue of bad character/good character based on complexion... and the perceived notion of the HOLLYWOOD stereotype of blacks is noted. But here's an idea...HOLLYWOOD is not the only movie-making industry. Why don't we commence to demanding that our high-paying movie stars and/or musicians start investing in producing/documenting our stories showing our many complexions in various "true to our lives" stages. Some of us have experienced life lessons just as Precious has. For some reason or another, some lighter complexion people were our heroes at given periods in our lives. That said, shoud that fact be denied simply because its being portrayed on the big screen for all to see? Come on now, let's take it for what it is. And I dare us as a people to stop blaming HOLLYWOOD for showing us in such a light. Let's make our own accountable by demanding that they re-invest some of their millions and resources in portraying us in our most complex and diversified elements of life.
Posted 02-10-2010 11:28 am
Maria says: I read the article and the issue of bad character/good character based on complexion... and the perceived notion of the HOLLYWOOD stereotype of blacks is noted. But here's an idea...HOLLYWOOD is not the only movie-making industry. Why don't we commence to demanding that our high-paying movie stars and/or musicians start investing in producing/documenting our stories showing our many complexions in various "true to our lives" stages. Some of us have experienced life lessons just as Precious has. For some reason or another, some lighter complexion people were our heroes at given periods in our lives. That said, shoud that fact be denied simply because its being portrayed on the big screen for all to see? Come on now, let's take it for what it is. And I dare us as a people to stop blaming HOLLYWOOD for showing us in such a light. Let's make our own accountable by demanding that they re-invest some of their millions and resources in portraying us in our most complex and diversified elements of life.
Posted 02-10-2010 11:28 am
Babe says: Having read the novel back in '96, my first reaction to Lee Daniels' interpolation was genuine relief that he left out some of the more graphic scenes. I'd psychologically braced myself. With his mind, I just didn't know where Daniels was going take it. That said, my second reaction was similar to yours in terms of casting & portrayl, it was either purposeful or carelessness. You see in the novel, Ms. Rain the caring teacher played by the lovely Paula Patton is indeed "dark" with a "nice face" "big eyes" and "long dreadlocky hair, look kinda nice but look kinda nasty too." Precious' words, not Gabby's, not mine and certainly not in Lee Daniels' version.
Posted 02-10-2010 12:36 pm
sheena says: i am so sad and upset that the editor would use use negative connotations on some damn skin color then the main objective of the movie. I'm a light skin young woman and i saw the movie it touched me becuase she sacrifice her young and life because her mother and father was tearing her down and abusing her. I'm ashamed and upset. Do better.
Posted 02-10-2010 12:38 pm
Bonsu Thompson says: Thank You Babe! (lol) Thank you for supplying this forum with golden evidence: "You see in the novel, Ms. Rain the caring teacher played by the lovely Paula Patton is indeed 'dark' with a 'nice face' 'big eyes' and 'long dreadlocky hair, look kinda nice but look kinda nasty too." So in Push the teacher's character looked closer to Whoopi Goldberg. Instead Lee Daniels casted Paula Patton W...T...F
Posted 02-10-2010 12:58 pm
Monica8725 says: wellll.. i'm another person who HASN'T seen Precious. It was only showing at 2 theaters where I live.. both locations were far. I've heard some ppl hated the movie.. some ppl liked it. I AM A TYLER PERRY FAN... but as far as the "light-skinned" "dark-skinned" issue ... I don't think it was intentional. It would be ONLY if the actors/actresses chosen were UNKNOWN TO HOLLYWOOD. I think Tyler Perry tries to get ALL Black entertainers involved. From what i've seen, Gabrielle Union & Morris Chessnut (spell chk) have one too many movies together. That alone should show that THERE'S NOT ENOUGH BLACK ACTORS/ACTRESSES... PERSONALLY I HATE LIGHT VS. DARK CONTROVERSY. IT'S POINTLESS. AND AS A MODEL, I'M SURPRISED BONSU WOULD SPEAK ON LIGHT VS. DARK IN FILM AND NOT IN THE "URBAN" MAGAZINE INDUSTRY... AN INDUSTRY THAT FINDS NON-BLACK WOMEN MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN "BASIC" BLACK WOMEN. too many times i've seen White & Latina Women on front covers of Magazines that cater to Black men... too many times i've seen some of these women in person who've had MAJOR work done (plastic surgery/but injections/lip injections) YET for some reason magazine editors will GLADLY get these fake model's IMAGES PHOTOSHOPED AND PUBLISHED. THE ONLY PPL WHO HAVE ISSUES WIT LIGHT VS. DARK ARE THOSE WHO HAVE ISSUES WITHIN THEMSELVES.... If u enjoy ur BLACKNESS no matter what shade, you won't get bothered by shit that don't define you or put money in your bank account.
Posted 02-10-2010 04:23 pm
Iamthenewblack says: in watching the movie I think it was Precious who actually told the social worker about what was going on in the home, it took courage to do that. Mariah Carey turned off public assistance after that but it took Precious to stop covering for her mother and tell the truth about the situation. I do agree somewhat with the color problems in Precious but I see it more so in other 'black' movies, more egregiously. Tyler Perry comes roaring to my mind but he somehow escapes codemnation. His caricatures are embarassing and damaging but we flock to them, he continues to make millions. Also, as you know music is a powerful medium the images within the industry in my opinion have more of an impact on young black adults than movies. I can respect your views on Precious but what I can't understand is why how selective people are in who or what they attack. I mean the normal young black kid knows vaguely what Precious is and some may have seen it but I'm sure most have heard Soulja Boy say 'I got all F'son my report card, throw some D's on that bitch'. Suffice it to say I agree Precious has some problems but they are splinters compared to the planks in the music industry.
Posted 02-10-2010 10:37 pm
abogada.del.diabla says: 'They're not marketing to me’ has become my mantra. Because entertainment is little more than a psychological playground in a constantly evolving social experiment, I chose carefully what audience demographic I want to be apart of. Making the industry accountable for what it produces lies dormant within certain audiences because accountability is seen as the exception and not the rule. Choosing what audience demographic you want to be apart of can make the difference in Mo’Nique getting an Oscar nod or not. And let's not forget that tix sales also play a part in Oscar nods. Money talks and the audience targeted for this movie spends lots of it. All without any expectation of accountability...
Posted 02-11-2010 01:41 am
Leo says: I posted a response to Mr. Thompson on my website, please view it and tell me what you think. http://www.imaleo.net/2010/02/food-4-thought-does-monique-deserve-the-oscar-dark-skin-vs-light-skin/
Posted 02-11-2010 01:55 pm
Jilly says: Lady you must be missing some screws. Although the characters who were providing counseling to the people who where dark skinned....it is the DARK SKINNED, PLUS SIZE WOMEN of the movie that had LEADING ROLES, and are NOMINATED FOR OSCARS! Now write me a thesis on the how "unfair" it all is.
Posted 02-12-2010 11:44 pm
JamsRock says: Mo'Nique's not Mary. Period. It's called acting. Give her the props she deserves the same way everyone gave Whoopi for being Celie of O for being Sophia. Mary, Celie and Ms. Sophia are all characters. The women these actors portrayed are not who they are. That's the beauty of art. Writer's do the same thing. Step out and become someone else; tell someone else's story...realistically. It's a hard craft and Mo'Nique nailed it...angry at skinny chicks (and yes, I've been accused of being one) or not. I root for Mo because she the "Mary" emotion right on the head of the nail!
Posted 02-19-2010 12:30 am
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