Miley Cyrus Talks Getting Kanye West’s Co-Sign And Never Twerking Again

Being Miley Cyrus right now requires layers upon layers of thick skin. Every magazine cover, every twerk, every photo with Mike Will Made It can and will make headlines, most of the times, for worse. But Miley gives zero f-cks.

As the face of Rolling Stone’s October issue, the artist formerly known as Hannah Montana gets topless (again) and sticks her tongue out (again) but also gets new ink, goes skydiving, recalls getting Kanye West’s praise, and goes on record about never twerking again. Read some of the highlights below.

On Kanye West:
“He came in and goes, ‘There are not a lot of artists I believe in more than you right now,'” she recalls. “The whole room went quiet. I was like, ‘Yo – can you say that again?!'” She laughs. “I just kept repeating that over and over in my mind, and it made me not nervous.”

On twerking:
“People are like, ‘Miley thinks she’s a black girl, but she’s got the flattest ass ever. I’m like, I’m 108 pounds! I know! Now people expect me to come out and twerk with my tongue out all the time. I’ll probably never do that shit again.”

On Pharrell’s reaction to VMA performance
“This is why I love Pharrell so much,” she says, then reads a text that he sent her out loud. It’s at least 1,000 characters long; she scrolls forever. “The VMAs was nothing more than God or the Universe showing you how powerful anything you do is,” he says at one point. “It’s like uranium – it has the power to take over lives or power entire countries. Now that you’ve seen your power, master it.”

“You’re not a train wreck,” he says later. “You’re the train pulling everyone else along.”

Read the full interview here.