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Dream Chaser: Food Network's Sunny Anderson On Being A Jane Of All Trades

Radio-journalist-turned-Food-Network-host Sunny Anderson is next up in VIBE's "In A League Of Their Own" series.

It's hard to argue with destiny. Sometimes the universe sets you on a path that you've only discussed with yourself internally, just to see it eventually come into fruition after a little bit of elbow grease. Food guru Sunny Anderson's life is full of these moments. The multitalented army brat has flowed seamlessly throughout a wide variety of industries, but they all fall under one simple career mission: to communicate what she loves.

Anderson just so happens to have many loves. Before her current spot on Food Network's Cooking For Real and role as co-host on The Kitchen, she started off as an Air Force journalist assigned to radio instead of her initial desire of writing the evening news. After continuing with radio in several smaller U.S. markets, she became a radio host at Hot 97 in New York. Then, she moved her way to cheffing it up on screen full-time and penning the New York Times bestselling cookbook, Sunny's Kitchen: Easy Food for Real Life.

That may seem like a scatterbrained career path to some, but for Sunny, it was just a blessing of being able to monetize all the things she genuinely loved. "You have to be careful with what you love because it can turn into a career," she tells VIBE. "I literally was only cooking because I loved it. And then it turned into career."

There's power in fearlessly chasing the desires of the heart, no matter how risky of a pursuit it may be. But you know the old saying: no risk, no reward. "I can always go backwards," she says, "but in order to go back, you have to go forward! There's nothing back there unless you go forward."

Here, Sunny holds little back as she talks about "supporting her fears with knowledge," finding the strength to say "no" to small scale opportunities and her steadfast pursuit of goals.

On industry transitions not equating to career changes:
A lot of times people ask me about my career changes and to me its the easiest thing to explain. This isn't a career change. I never really made a career change. My career has always been communicating what I'm interested in to the masses. There are so many things I love in life and it's not a career change if all you're doing is communicating what you love.

Advice to people scared to switch it up after stability:
I'm always being me, so it's never been difficult for me to move on. A lot of times people have trouble with moving on because they are comfortable and they do know they're doing well and they do know this is a good job, why leave it? So here's what I'd say to that. If you do think you're at the top of your game and you know everything and you're doing well and you're excellent, okay then. Go do something else. If it doesn't work out, you can go right back to that excellent shit because you said you were good at it, right? So then can you support your fears with your knowledge? Just give it a try. This is the only time I'll be conscious in this body and in this skin, so if I can get to New York at 26 at Hot 97, which I felt was the top of radio, then do you stop? No you don't stop. Another thing I like to tell people is are you breathing? Your heart's pumping right? Guess what, your brain did that. Did you think about it? Did you make it happen? Okay, so when your brain tells you you might have an idea of something to do, this thing is so powerful it is pumping blood and air through you. So if you have a dream or thoughts in your head, do you mean to tell me that you're going to ignore that? It's making you breathe right now! So imagine if the idea that it gave you makes you breathe as well? I'm breathing, I'm listening to what feels right. No one's going to take a chance on you if you don't take a chance on yourself. And like I said, I can always go back. I feel confident not cocky but confident that I can call up many radio stations and say listen, I'd like to come back and I think I can find myself a place. There's comfort in the knowledge of that.

The key to being authentic on camera:
First of all, I don't have an embarrassment gene. I got that from my parents. I can be embarrassed for others but for me, it's just a crazy story to tell. You know like when girls take a picture and before they put it on social media they check and make sure they like it. I don't even care, because I feel like there are a thousand images of myself out there and a thousand moments I'm going to be on TV. I really can't care about what people want. If I'm making everybody happy, I'll make nobody happy. Everybody has a different idea of what they think I should be. Well guess what? I know who I am, so to me it's never been difficult. Ever since I stepped off Emeril's stage that first time, the producers said to me I'm a natural and I look like I'm having a good time when I'm on camera. I didn't even know where the camera was. You're supposed to know which camera because the red light turns on but I just went into a zone. I don't think twice. I just open my mouth. If you're yourself, whatever comes out, that's you. Sometimes I surprise myself, but I'm always okay with it.

On redefining mentorship:
I don’t think I view mentors in the same way that a lot of people do. I think people view mentors as "I see what you’re doing and I’d like to emulate that. Can you help or can you show me how to get there?" I’ve never gone to anyone in that way, but what I have realized in my career is the invisible mentor – the person that does want to teach me something and I didn’t ask. What I invite people to do is if you’re looking for a mentor or finding a mentor in the position that you want, find the mentor that hires the person in the position that you want. They are the ones that can tell you how to get that job. Usually people that get the job really don’t tell you how to get it. And there’s more than one path to get there. If someone were to come with me and say ‘Sunny I want to get on Food Network can you help me? ‘ I don’t know because it was crap shoot when I did it and I went broke for two years. I don’t know if I can help you out. I know it seems like I could, but I don’t know how I got here. I mean, I know I put in the work. But instead at looking at me for a mentor, look for the person that hires me. Go get the producer because they know who they are looking for. I have no idea what they are looking for. I was just being me.

The beauty in pairing patience with persistence:
For the last couple of years or so, I've wanted more out of my position at the network. It's that glass ceiling that I was talking about at radio. Financially you get paid more on primetime, but to me it's more of a promotion. Hey, you did awesome for us on daytime now we're going to give you a promotion. It's less of the money and more of the feeling like I've done a good job. And I know I have, so promote me! I've been pitching primetime show ideas and I've been telling them I want a primetime show. More recently, I've been actually telling them no on other things. They'd come to me to do a one off on a primetime show. No, I don't want to be your salt and pepper. I want to be your meat. I don't want to be the seasoning. I can't tell you how hard it's been for the last couple of years every time you get a show call from the network and it's not primetime to tell them no because you're afraid you're not going to get invited to that primetime party ever again and then now you're not going to get invited to the daytime party. For a very long time, I made the difficult decision to tell people offering me a perfectly find job no because I knew what I wanted. Don't call her because she ain't gon' take that. And last night [knocks on wood], I got a call for a primetime show.

It's so hard in business to stand up for what you really want and turn down perfectly fine positions and perfectly fine money when you know what you feel like you deserve. I will tell someone no until I'm blue in the face for things that I know aren't for me just so I can have that one moment in the sun. I'm very happy because you really do have to be willing to wait for what you want and in a real way meaning you don't even take what's not for you. I'll starve because I know what I want. At least they're giving me a chance, and that's all I ask in life.

Don't be too scared of failure or brokeness to chase a dream:
I had a job at this radio station doing sales and I came up with this term. I call it the 8:59:59 job. If you're at an 8:59:59 job you might want to leave it. You pull up and you sit in that car in the parking lot until 8:59:59, then you walk upstairs at 9 o'clock and you deal with the day. Then you leave at 5 o'clock on the dot. If you're doing that, this ain't it. There's gotta be something you can do that can make you happier. It might not make you money, but happiness is soul money. When I was doing that sales job I thought, this ain't it. That let me know that this is what a lot of people feel. A lot of people feel this but they don't know what it is. It's where you're not supposed to be. If you can deal with a little bit of anxiety and the fear of the unknown of the future and a little struggle to go chase down what it is, you might end up in a better place.

My musical tastes:
I love Rapsody. I think her appearance on Kendrick Lamar’s [album] solidified it for me. I love Jamla [Records]. I got 9th Wonda to score one of my seasons on Food Network, which was difficult but I made them do it. I’m just in love with the fact that this artist is getting so much love. In addition to that, I’m from Texas so I’m a Scarface head. It’s been a long time since Public Enemy, ‘Pac and a little bit of Eminem had me stuck but that whole Kendrick album had me stuck. I can’t cook to ‘em but I’ll eat to ‘em.

My personal favorite meal:
Grandma’s red velvet cake for appetizer, my dad would make his turkey, my mom would make mac and cheese, and my grandma would make greens with pork. We’d still end the meal with my grandma’s squash pie.

An ideal compromise meal that's great for the body and soul:
Chicken is king if you just want to feel comfortable and good about yourself. Fish is king. There is a recipe I have for butterflied chicken. You cut it, you butterfly it and use this orange glaze that I do. What I love about it is, is here you got the lean chicken and then you have a little bit of sweet because there is some glaze. So then you don’t feel too bad. And I usually serve it with asparagus and potatoes. Potatoes have lots of great vitamins in them and with asparagus, obviously everything green is good for you. And the chicken is not bad. It’s a lean meat and there's just a little bit of sugar with the glaze. It’s better than doing barbecue chicken where it’s like 360 degrees surrounded in sugar coated goodness.

Why I list my heart's desires:
You should make mini lists of goals in your life. It’s smart because it’s a numbers game. The cool thing about goals is if you have a whole lot of them and chances are you get one, it will embolden you to chase the others because that feeling is so amazing. Accomplishing is so amazing and you just want to do it again. People that are one-track-minded... I don’t know how you live that. I have a lot of things I want to get done. If you have other things that can make you happy and they keep on happening, you can’t just have a couple of things; have a lot on your list to get done. Then you’ll never feel like a failure. I haven’t gotten everything that I wanted, but it’s ok. I didn’t get to write the evening news in the military like I wanted. But at the end of the day things turned out alright. Relax and know that there is a plan and you are not in charge. Just do what feels right.

The definition of a boss:
Being a boss means making a decision, feeling good about it and trusting your gut even if your employees or employer doesn’t see it your way and taking care of yourself. No apologies to yourself for making mistakes. Just brush it off and move on.

Photo Credit: Sunny Anderson's New York Times' Bestseller 'Sunny's Kitchen: Easy Food for Real Life'

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VIBE Vault: Jada Pinkett Smith Talks Motherhood, Marriage & Sexiness In May 2001 Issue

Ever since playing streetwise Lena James on the college-campus sitcom A Different World, Jada Pinkett Smith has portrayed many a sexy shortie with attitude, boast a tough-as-nails swagger with a dash of vulnerability. Her film career—highlighted by Menace II Society, A Low Down Dirty Shame, Set It Off, Jason’s Lyric, and Woo—has been dotted with every possible permutation of the strong ghetto girl in distress.

But with mature roles like Bamboozled’s socially conscious Sloan Hopkins tucked under her belt, the Baltimore native who once spit verse with a teenaged Tupac Shakur in high school is proving to be more than the stereotypical neck-swiveling drama queen. Pinkett Smith has taken on a roster of challenging characters: exploring family matters in Fox Searchlight’s April release Kingdom Come, as well as starring in the highly anticipated pictures Ali (with husband Will Smith) and The Matrix 2 and 3.

But don’t think this woman is strictly business. The 29-year-old feels the upside of growing pains in both her professional and personal lives. As the mother of two youngsters (Jaden Christopher Syre, 2, and Willow Camille Reign, 6 months) and stepmom to 6-year-old Trey, Pinkett Smith is macking the maternal lifestyle—juggling play circles, early morning call times, and a little conjugal nookie on the side with the talented Mr. Smith. This pint-size fireplug’s still got teeth-gritting edge.

VIBE: Tell me about your character Charisse in Kingdom Come. I hear she’s pretty headstrong.

Jada Pinkett Smith: Definitely, but she’s a fool. She’s really self centered and headstrong about all the wrong things; she can’t see outside of herself. The patriarch of the family has passed away, and her focus is still all about her. It’s like, Sis, it's not all about you right now.

Co-starring with LL Cool J, Whoopi Goldberg, Vivica A. Fox, Toni Braxton, et al, you’re doing another movie with a predominantly black cast. But you know what they say about working with our people…

It’s always been such a pleasure working with black directors and black casts, because you don’t have to spend a lot of time explaining yourself. It’s the same reasons why white people do all white films. These are the people you can relate to, that have the same experiences as you. I’ve never had any drama, only love. Like in Set It Off: There was so much buzz that there was going to be some drama with four black women working together, but that was probably the most fun I’ve ever had on a film.

You’re married to Anthony Anderson’s character in Kingdom Come. Can we expect any love scenes like you’ve done in the past? We all remember you rolling in the grass with Allen Payne in Jason’s Lyric.

None of that anymore. My older son is a little bit too old for me to be doing that if it’s not with his dad [laughter]! That part of my life is in the past. I’ve got sons now, and I’ve got a little girl. That was the other, younger Jada, who didn’t have any other responsibilities but to herself. Now I’ve got to think about my kids.

Of all the characters you’ve played—from manslaying Woo to stand-by-you-man Lyricto gangsta-boo Stoney to knucklehead Charisse—which of your roles is filled with the most Jada?

I really wasn’t in a space of maturity with that character to really fall into the depths of Lyric’s vulnerable space as I would’ve liked to. I think about it today, and I go, Wow, I could have done this and done this. That was another side of myself that I wasn’t comfortable showing yet. And from A Low Down Dirty Shame, Peaches was basically Jada at that time but to the third power. Set It Off was definitely Jada to another level. Stony was rah-rah but not that rah-rah [laughter]! That’s exactly how I would be—scared but [knowing I] gotta do my thing. Woo was truly the other side of Jada, like Honey, please talk to the hand [laughter].

If Woo was your alter ego, how did you deal with trifling men before you met Will? 

The best punishment is just to be out. There's so much you can take, I was definitely one of those chicks that would hang in there for a minute trying to week it out. But once I realized in my head that it just wasn't it, I rolled. Then niggas was was like, “Well, where you going?” I was like, Man. I told you. You saw me hanging in there with your crazy ass, trying to work this out. You know what I'm saying? Now you want to know where I am? I’m somewhere not with you.

Was there a specific incident? 

Nothing really, because when I was younger, I wasn't living right either. I can't really say that someone did anything so bad to me, because whatever they did, I deserved it.

Jada Pinkett Smith is a former playa-playa in repentance? 

You can say it however you want [laughter].. I was young in Hollywood. I didn't know about relationship and commitment. Unfortunately, that's something that we're not really taught, especially in our households. Most of us come from very dysfunctional places. Will is the first monogamous relationship I've had. I never knew what it took to have a healthy relationship or what commitment was all about.

How have the kids impacted your coochie-cooing sessions with Will?

HA HA [big laughter]!!! Well, shoot, kids are always going to put a little damper on that parade, but not so much that you can’t handle your business. They come, and, once again, you have that transition period where you have to find your groove within this new lifestyle you've been given. But it hasn't been drama. We've handled it very well [naughty laughter]. 

Inquiring minds want to know the real deal with Will Smith. Does he come correct in the boudoir? 

I'll just say this one absolute fact. For all the women who want to know, all the women in the VIBE world: Will puts it down! I could not be married or be monogamous with anybody who didn't. That's real [big laughter]! All I have to do is look at Will, and everything gets turned on from that. I'm pretty much an easy catch. He’s got beautiful eyes, and his physique now is out of control ‘cause of Ali. Yeaaahhh… It doesn’t take much for my buttons to get pushed. 

But Will is tall, maybe 6’2”, and you're so petite. 

It doesn't matter. Size doesn't matter. He says this all the time: I can't come at him in a bad way. And I’m like, Whatever, Daddy—just bring it. That's why we're such a happy couple. We can't be mad too long. 

It's great to have such a strong physical connection. 

And also the spiritual connection. The friendship even deepens sexual connection. When all of that is tied in together, it never gets tired. You have your times when you're kind of slow—if you're working, or during pregnancy. That's why it's important to have that friendship and that spiritual connection. That's what keeps it all together until the physical aspect of it booms back in, because everybody has their slow times.

Your children will grow up faster than you realize. What kind of relationship advice will you give them? 

You basically have to go with the flow. I know for my daughter, I probably won't put restrictions on her in a [harsh] way, because, being female myself. I understand the type of freedom a young girl needs. But when I talk about freedom, I mean you have to have a sense of responsibility. That's very difficult in our culture, because we're basically selling being a ho as what it is to be a woman today. If you're not a ho, then you're not really down or you're not really hip. I don't talk about freedom in that sense—basically just giving it away to whomever you want. There was a time when black women were very uptight about their sexuality. I think right now we're going through a space where we're finding our freedom as far as our sexuality, but I think we're going to our next extreme. We're going to find that middle ground. I hope by the time my daughter is of age we'll be at that space.

You're considered one of the sexiest people in Hollywood. What’s your definition of sexiness?

Really [laughter]? Well that is quite an honor. I'm learning as I get older, because I haven't always been this way. I'm gaining a better understanding as I mature that what people are attracted to most of all—and especially my husband, who's pretty much the only person I have to worry about these days—is beyond my physical. I'll be 30 this year. I'm moving into a whole other space of my womanhood! So I've kind of outgrown that whole, well let me go out with my short skirts on, with my stomach out or my bust up. I don't necessarily think that's something I have to do. I feel like I've been there like hardcore [laughter]. I might go back to feeling like that. Now I'm finally feeling like a woman, whereas before I was a little girl just trying to be a woman. Now I'm really feeling myself. Trust that with Kingdom Come, Matrix 2 and 3, and Ali, y'all will see a whole new Jada. Believe me. Y’all bouts to see it like y'all haven't seen it. 


This article originally appeared in VIBE's May 2001 issue. Written by Brett Johnson | Photography by: Isabel Snyder and others.

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'The Old Guard' Celebrates Women On Both Sides Of The Lens, Says Director Gina Prince-Bythewood & Actress KiKi Layne

Gina Prince-Bythewood is not new to this. Her decades-long screenwriting credits go back as far as 1992 when she contributed to the Cosby Show spin-off, A Different World. Her directorial debut happened nearly 10 years later with her 2000 film, Love & Basketball which grossed over $27 million in the U.S. box office and went on to become a black cinematic classic. Since then, Bythewood directed more films like The Secret Life of Bees (2008) and Beyond the Lights (2014). Today, Bythewood is stepping away from the dramatic and romantic films of yesteryear and making her mark in the genre of action films with the new Netflix movie, The Old Guard.

Based on the comic book by Greg Rucka, The Old Guard stars lead actresses Charlize Theron (Mad Max: Fury Road, Hancock) and KiKi Layne (If Beale Street Could Talk, Native Son). Theron plays Andy, an immortal mercenary recruited for a mission to protect the mortal world. Layne plays Nile, a U.S. Marine recruited to join the badass task force. Before her "rebirth" into her new eternal life as a soldier, she learns about life as an Old Guard, what she'll stand to gain and lose as undying warrior and more.

Upon receiving the script, Bythewood was "incredibly excited" and happy to have an opportunity where she could not only take on a different type of cinema but also bring a young Black female hero to life and into the spotlight. "I knew the type of action film I wanted to do, an action drama," she says in an interview with VIBE correspondent Jazzie Belle. "And I knew absolutely when I got the opportunity, that I wanted us [Black people] to be in it." And that we are. With actor Chiwetel Ejiofor (12 Years a Slave) taking on a supporting role, Layne holds her own in the action-packed feature film as she tests her body's limits in scene after scene. The rising star would be sure to let you know how physicalities set her and her character apart.

"I mean I love the opportunity to be that physical," she says. "Nile still has so much heart and, being led by Gina, being encouraged to dig deeper into that and to not be afraid of her vulnerability, which was exciting. So I kind of play that, but then still play that physical strength and being a Marine and all of that. So I would say that would actually be the biggest difference between us."

The Prince-Bythewood and Layne sat with Belle to discuss the limitations around the term "Black cinema," being a part of a film that has Black women in front and behind the lens, and what they hope for The Old Guard's impact 20 years from now.


On how music inspires her screenwriting:

Prince-Bythewood: Music is everything to my process. When I start to write, I create soundtracks for myself too. If it's just songs that either speak to what I'm writing or open me up emotionally to what I'm about to write. I have soundtracks for myself for directing, and then I create soundtracks as I'm editing. It's everything and I love doing songs for score. I love the traditional score, but I also love songs for scores. And those are songs that just help elevate the scene, add a little bit more emotion. It doesn't take over the scene, but it absolutely aides it and songs tell such a story...I love soundtracks, it goes back to Purple Rain. Where you could listen to that soundtrack and then watch the movie again in your head because the songs were that distinct, that's what I love to do with my films.

On the Black women she pulled influence from when preparing for her role:

Layne: Black women who I find to be strong and just maybe haven't seen it represented that way on film. Honestly, just thinking about my mom. Angela Bassett was the biggest example of strength. Who else was I thinking of? Those are like the first students to kind of pop in my head of just like, especially with Angela, the way that she just carries herself. There's such pride and dignity and integrity to her that I just, I mean love. Period. But it was definitely something that, when thinking of Nile, trying to bring some of that in there as well.

On the limiting term "Black cinema" as it relates to Hollywood:

The term "Black cinema" is not a negative to me, nor to us. My issue with it is with Hollywood. In terms of Hollywood using that to describe any film that has a black person in it. So suddenly they feel like, "Oh, we've done our one black film." As opposed to, "We should be in every single genre. Sci-fi, Western, love stories, period pieces." That's who we are, that's the breadth of our humanity, that's what I want to see. I just don't want to limit us, but I revel and celebrate black cinema and black film.

On how they would like The Old Guard to be remembered 20 years from now:

Layne: In 20 years from now, I would hope that it would be, you won't necessarily remember, but as a, I don't know, a piece of getting Hollywood to tell more of these types of stories with women at the lead in front of and behind the camera. I'm hoping that it will be an opportunity that leads to more doors like this being opened. Just showing that we're just as capable and it's just as interesting when we do it.

Prince-Bythewood: And then I'll just add in 20 years, if people are still watching this film that says it all, that this film had longevity, it spoke to them and it was a world and it's characters that they wanted to see again and live with again. And as artists, I think that's a pretty incredible thing.

Interview's music bed provided by Gus.

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Watch: Rodney Jerkins Talks Producing On ‘The High Note’ Soundtrack, Andre Harrell And How His Dad Sparked His Career In ‘Billboard’

When you think of your favorite R&B and pop hits by Brandy, Destiny's Child, Mary J. Blige, and Michael Jackson, you can't help but think about the musical genius behind the tracks: Rodney "Darkchild" Jerkins. Since his start in the music industry at the young age of 14 (under the mentorship of legendary musician Teddy Riley and his father Pastor Fredrick Jerkins), the Grammy-winning producer has created songs across countries, genres, and mediums.  To date, Jerkins has contributed to over 115 movie and television series soundtracks with his first credit for Joe's "Don't Wanna Be a Player" (not be confused with Big Pun's hit) on the 1996 Booty Call soundtrack.

His latest accomplishment is serving as the executive music producer for the new video-on-demand film, The High Note, starring actress Tracee Ellis Ross, daughter of the legendary Diana Ross. In the Nisha Ganatra-directed  film, Ross plays Grace Davis, a diva and iconic singer who has to "choose between playing it safe or listening to her heart in a decision that could change her life forever." Weeks prior to The High Note's premiere, Focus Features and Republic Records released "Love Myself," the lead single from the movie's soundtrack, which features Ross singing on her very first musical recording. As the film's executive music producer, Jerkins worked with her on another track, "Stop For A Minute," and helped Ross become comfortable with laying down tracks in a music recording studio, an experience she'd only witnessed second-hand while her mother worked on music.

"When we first started, that was Tracy's first time in the booths," says Jerkins about working with Ross. "That can become somewhat intimidating. I said, 'Tracy just trust me. I've worked with every artist. I've worked with actresses who had to sing before.' I said, 'This is what I do. Just have trust that we'll get through it.' As we started to work, her confidence started to build and she started to understand what it took."

VIBE and Cory Taylor of R&B Spotlight had a chance to sit down with Jerkins to talk about his extensive career, working on the official soundtrack for The High Note, his advice for upcoming producers, and more.


On when he got the call to be a part of the film's soundtrack:

I was in Florida at home and Mike Knobloch, the head of music at Universal, he called me one day. He was just like, "Man, I got a prize that I think you would be perfect for. Would you mind reading the script?" I said, "Yes, send me the script." And this was crazy. I was actually working with an artist at the time. I have this artist named Jac Ross and I was just listening to Lee Moses because Jack has this super soulful voice. In the script, the first scene had a Lee Moses song. I called Mike before reading the rest of the script. I was like, "Yo, this is mine." I said, "The first song. I just studied Lee Moses two days ago." So the fact that the first song in the scene was a Lee Moses song called "Bad Girl," I was like, this is mine.

On how his Dad sparked his start in the music business:

I got started with Teddy Riley working in Virginia Beach. I was kind of this apprentice down there. I was 14 when I first met Teddy. Every summer I'd go down there and just kind of sit and learn. I would go back home and work on stuff and work on ideas. It wasn't really until I was probably 16 or 17 when I really got my first songs heard by record companies, and people started paying attention saying, "Yo, there's this kid in New Jersey." I think what really sparked that and my father, who was mentoring me at the time, I think I said to him one day, "I got all this good music, but nobody knows who I am, because I'm from South Jersey, Pleasantville." There's no outlet down there. My dad invested money out of his own pocket, and he bought this ad in Billboard.

At first, people thought he was crazy because there were no ads in Billboard. Like if you looked through Billboard, it was just charts. For some reason my dad, he bought this ad and in this ad it said: "Super producer." I was young and wasn't a super-producer yet. He put this ad in and 50% of the people laughing at it were saying, "Yo, this is crazy. This dude is crazy." You had the other 50% of people calling and saying, "Yo, we want to meet."


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Dad, Thanks for instilling in me Christ at an early age. It’s because of you I choose to lead my family in that same direction. You’ve given me so many great moments as a child growing up. Believing in me when others didn’t. Pushing me to greatness. Being unconventional with your approach is exactly the way I do things to this day. Demanding respect from my counterparts. Not being taken advantage of, and being prayerful about everything. These are the life lessons and qualities you have given me. By watching you apply all of these things in your life I’ve learned to do the same. I appreciate you and love you dearly! HAPPY FATHERS DAY DAD!

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On his fondest memory of the late Andre Harrell:

He would call me up when I wasn't working with him. I remember when I did "Deja Vu" for Beyonce and Jay-Z. I was in New York City, the song was out, and Andre called and said, "Yo, where you at?" I said, "I'm in this old studio." "I'm coming to see you right now. I'm coming to see you right now." I ain't know what he wanted. He came up to the studio. He was like, "Playboy, playboy. Do you know what you just did? Do you know what you just gave this girl?" And I was like, "Nah," because I'm just keeping it moving.

He's like, "Man, you gave her Michael Jackson, 2005, like you gave her the Michael Jackson 'Don't Stop Til You Get Enough' for a female like this." I was like, "What you mean?" He was like, "The way you put the horns with the live bass and the drums, and still knocking with the 808, people aren't doing that." He was so animated when he spoke to you. He made you believe there's something much greater in yourself. That was my guy, man. He did that constantly with me. He would be like that all the time. I'm talking about even like three months ago, like in February, we had a similar conversation.

Advice to up and coming producers looking to get their foot in the music business:

First, I would say study all the greats that came before you. I'm not talking in the last 10, 20 years. I'm talking about going back, going back to Barry Gordy days, and study them. Study sound. Every sound and every genre possible. Don't be a one-trick pony. Be able to produce any type of genre. I would also say be different. What I mean by that, a lot of technology has allowed it for producers to become easy, but it's also become easy in the same sonic, in the same sound. All the tools are the same. You have everybody using the same tools right now. It all starts to sound the same. I would tell producers to challenge themselves to be different. Be unique, be different.

On his future plans to produce music for films: 

I'm going to continue to do movies. I've made it my thing. I can't say it right now, but it looks like I got another movie coming my way right now. With the same company, by the way. I'm going to continue to do it because I love it. I think it brings out a whole different side of emotion for me. It allows me to create differently. Sometimes we get caught up in what's popping at radio, what's popping streaming...I would love to do more in the TV and film realm because I just think that's the natural progression for me and my career.

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