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From East To West: Tyler Lepley Rises To His First Lead Role On TV One's 'Ringside'

During a press run for the newly released TV One film 'Ringside,' Lepley discusses changing gears on his career.

Life has a funny way of pointing you towards what and where you are destined to be, and in this actor’s case, his dream led him to pursing a career outside of the square we’re sometimes too focused and comfortable in, refusing to venture away from opportunities that’s calling our names.

One would never imagine that the streets of Philadelphia held a young man by the name of Tyler Lepley who knew life had more in store for him. Interested in its physicalities after partaking in several sports growing up, Lepley was mean with the hands and swift with the feet. He knew the 9 to 5 he was working right after college wasn’t where he was destined to be, and in order to receive the change he wanted, he had to get up and go for it.

Moving to what’s known as “the better coast” helped jumpstart the star’s career. You could find him at Glove Works in Santa Monica, Calif., before he made his way to your television every Tuesday night at 9 p.m., after landing a recurring role as Benny on The Have and The Have Nots on OWN. You might have seen him all over your news feed, explore page, and timeline, with almost every woman around the world obsessing over his talented acting skills, built figure, and appealing appearance that’s easy on the eyes, but he continues to stay humble and always references back to his sense of self before the stardom he’s gained.

Being granted the opportunity to showcase his talents on national television, portraying such a complex character, led Lepley towards his first leading role on TV One’s new movie, Ringside, produced by Swirl Films. Written and directed by radio personality Russ Parr, Lepley’s character, Jaxon, is an undefeated boxer that’s preparing to fight against a champion. He treads lightly, swimming around the core issues he faces at home and with his manager on a daily basis, ensuring not to sink in the midst of it all by finding a way to get out of the rut and continue to strive for greatness.

During a press run for the newly released film, Lepley discusses changing gears on his career, his experience working with Tyler Perry and Oprah Winfrey on The Haves And The Have Nots, and working with Sevyn Streeter on Ringside.

Starting off with your career, you began heading in the route of personal training and you moved from Philly to L.A. to pursue that dream. Why L.A. of all cities?
Tyler Lepley: I didn’t actually start training ‘til I got here. It was actually just something that I kind of fell into. I left Philly and I came to L.A. because I didn’t like my 9-5 job. I wanted something more. I’m a little intellectually curious when it comes to life, and once I graduated I just felt a little bit stuck, almost like I was in a midlife crisis at 23, which makes no sense. The reason I came to L.A. was because I had two cousins that lived here. One of them had worked at the gym. I wasn’t promised a job right then, but it was really just about having that support system. If they were in Florida, I was going to move to Florida, and if they were in Dakota I would’ve moved to Dakota. I just wanted to start something new and it just so happened that this is where a little bit of my support system was.

How did you end up leaving training behind to enter the acting field?
I actually got approached, or you can call it discovered, inside the gym. I moved here and maybe within three months of working at the gym, I grabbed the job, just from being a gym rat, hanging out at my cousin’s gym, probably within a month of moving here. I was working at that gym for about three months and I had someone come into the gym that said I want you to audition for this. I went in and I booked it. But it wasn’t until about two years after that point that I was a full time actor. And I think what makes that domino fall is when you have enough money to actively pursue this full time. When you’re doing work here and there that’s not enough, you know? You have to have a survival job to keep food on the table while you chase the dream. And it wasn’t until I had the volume of work, from a show like The Have and The Have Nots could I actually go ahead and pursue it full time. So that was the determining factor.

Is attending the gym still one of your daily routines?
Yeah, definitely. Absolutely. I think if you want to look a certain type of way, it has to be a staple in your daily routine. But for me, I come from playing football in college and I used to box growing up, so I have lots of scar tissue and my body feels old sometimes so it’s important for me just in terms of my longevity, to stay loose, stay flexible. It’s definitely still a part of my everyday regimen, for sure.

What age did you start boxing?
I actually got into karate first. That’s the first place I ever threw my hands. My dad probably got me started around four or five, and I dibble and dabbled with it, and it wasn’t until I got serious with football and then I got a scholarship for football that it was kind of sitting on the back burner. Just because I had to go to school and I wasn’t getting a scholarship to box, I was getting it to play football. So when I got serious with football is when I hung the gloves up for a while.

Me w the Stunt Coordinator and Fight Choreographer of #Ringside @thebadboyroy @gloveworx @leyonazubuike93

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What was your first reaction when you heard you landed a recurring role on The Have and The Have Nots with Tyler Perry, and also that you would be airing on Oprah Winfrey’s network?
Well it was crazy. Excited doesn’t even describe it because you have to understand at the time it was Mr. Perry’s first drama series ever and it was Ms. Winfrey’s first scripted series ever. So this was like four years ago. To start off as a series regular, man, it was just like a dream come true. And then now as I look back on it, it was great then when I found out that I was going to have a job and be able to work with these people. But as I been working with them, up until this point, as I look back at it, the biggest lesson that I have was not just a job and being on the TV and stuff like that, which is all great, but to have those types of role models, and to be able to watch Tyler Perry and Oprah Winfrey in an intimate setting, you can’t even pay for that. I could give all the money in the world and still wouldn’t be able to have access to that. So to be able to have accessibility to greatness is what I really thank God for everyday, because these are trailblazers. Billionaires for crying out loud, just as humble as ever, and it’s a great example of not only how to get there, but how to stay once you get it.

And you and Tyler Perry share the same first name. What is it like being on set with him at the same time? Is someone given a nickname?
(Laughs) Well, well, first of all he’s the rich Tyler. I’m on my way, I’m on my way (Laughs). It’s just so crazy; we laugh at that all the time. It’s not too often you get to drive into a studio and you see your name on the sign. So it’s great, and like I said he’s very personable, he’s very humble, and vulnerable, so we laugh about stuff like that all the time. You know he’s really like, almost like a big brother, molding us and trying to steer us the right way, so it’s really cool to have him around.

Are you surprised by the success of The Have and The Have Nots? It’s completing season six now, plus it’s a scripted television show and it’s really rare that scripted television shows get picked up for multiple seasons now.
You know what, I’m floored by it. It blows me away that the fans tune in. Because I watch the number too, right. So someone at ICM would kick the numbers out, so it would show up in my emails how well the show does. So to see three million people show up for every single week for the last three years, every week when it’s on, even last week we caught another three million. That’s what I’m floored by, the support of the fans. You know it’s a little risqué anytime you see something for the first time, like I mentioned earlier it was his first time doing a drama series, and it was her first time doing a scripted series, so you know there’s always a little worry because you’re doing something for the first time, but at the end of the day, even though I’m floored by the support of the fans, I cant be surprised because these guys, everything they touch turns into gold. I’m trying to learn that blueprint. I’m trying to see how they do it. It’s really exciting.

Plus #BlessUp #HAHN

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Your work ethic has been really amazing and you’re making your way up to the top. Do you still audition for roles? Or are you automatically casted to play a character now?
No, No, I still audition for roles. Where I’m at right now there are some offers only, there are some things that are only offers, but I still audition. I also like to audition. It’s its own muscle. To go in there, a room full of strangers, and to be able to act like it’s just you and someone else talking. So it really just gives that nervous system and that muscle exercise. It helps you anytime they call action. So sometimes I do, but I still enjoy auditioning.

What was it like working alongside some of the industries biggest talents on Ringside?
It was great. It was exciting. It’s not everyday you have big shots. I remember watching ATL. I saw Sevyn Streeter on the radio the other day with Gucci Mane, and I’ve been a Gucci lover forever. Russ Parr, you’re talking about the radio. Russ Parr does everything. So it’s cool because in my own right, even though I’m the lead I’m coming here learning from everybody, from my co-stars to my director. And it’s great because Russ isn’t like, a dictator. Back when I used to play football, when I had a coach like that who listens to you, we used to call him a players coach. So the way I say that nowadays it’s like Russ is like an active director. He really wants your input. I was excited and I was still learning. It was great, it was a lot of fun for me.

Was Russ the person who approached you with the script?
No. I actually auditioned for this role. I did this one the old fashion way just like I did The Have and The Have Nots. I wouldn’t have it no other way. Because you know you got to see what someone can do. You can watch me on The Have and The Have Nots all you want, or on other shows, but Benny’s not Jaxon, this is a whole different character. I had to go in and do it the old-fashioned way and book the job so it was a lot of fun.

Wrapping up at #TCA discussing #Ringside @beverlyhilton #September4 @tvonetv

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And Sevyn is a singer so this was her first film ever. Working closely with her, with her playing your sister, how would you say she did for her first movie?
Oh my gosh, Sevyn Streeter did phenomenal. I was blown away when I heard, because I had overheard that it was her first acting job. I would have never thought that because she was just so into it. She was so believable in some of my scenes. I caught her giving me stuff to make me react. She was actually pulling me into some of my scenes. So you see someone like a Sevyn Streeter, that’s when you see someone with natural talent. And to think about it, she’s coming up in this world of entertainment, I’m sure she has a lot of older role models, just like she has Jaxon, that tries to steer her the right way. It’s not all the time that you’re able to tap into that. Sometimes you get so panic by the action you forget about all your life experiences. I was appreciative of her being able to stay in the moment and really draw some of the real feelings out of some of these scenes. Sevyn Streeter was great.

How did the movie come about with you landing the leading role of Jaxon?
I remember when I first went in I was really excited. This is one of the scripts that I had read more than two times. Sometimes I try to read it a few times, like the whole script to get a real feel of what I’m actually doing from start to finish. Normally I would do it twice, maybe three times for any normal audition if I have enough time. Like if it’s tomorrow I’ll be able to read the whole script. So I remember when I read the script at first I was so excited to go in that it almost threw me off. I was just so excited about the project. That’s like a dream role for me. Not only because of the boxing, but to be that caretaker, to be so rough into it. And Jaxon is a really dynamic character. So even for my acting chops I just wanted to do it. So I went in on the audition and then I had like about a week in between the final directing section with Russ Parr. In between that week it was great because I had enough time to really get into it. I started really getting back into the boxing, in terms of like sparing, and just really reading. I read the script like maybe six times. It just really helped me for the final directing session. I just had to get Jaxon down by the final time I went in there. That’s kind of how it went. That old fashion, hard work, and it was a lot of fun when the director called action. It was dope.

Tell me a little bit about the character of Jaxon and what went into preparing to play a boxer?
First of all, you got to have all the physicality down pat. It has got to be not just good, it’s got to be real. It’s got to be authentic. When Floyd Mayweather or Mike Tyson walks around, you can tell they’re a boxer just by them walking in a room. You know what I mean? It’s more than just throwing a punch. It’s very physically demanding in terms of being disciplined to bring the physicality of life. Because if you step in that ring and do the wrong thing you affect the whole movie. It’s not only a role but this is a boxing movie. It has to be real. Then as a actor, someone with dynamic as Jaxon, you gotta give yourself permission to feel all those things. I remember hearing one scene, and I remember doing some of my background work, like Jaxon, Selita, and TC, their parents died when they were really young. It was a very unprepared situation. It’s one of the first scenes in the movie that they talk about. Jaxon, he’s a caretaker, but he was kind of thrust into the dynamics. You know, at six, you don’t want to be daddy. You want to go to senior prom and you want to be reckless, and you want to grow up. So there’s a strong dynamic of him taking care of everyone but not necessarily wanting to. He’s just that good of a man that he has a lot to overcome when he does that. So it’s just like a lot of dynamic intricacies with a character like Jaxon. Or balancing having to give everybody else what they need with taking care of yourself as you go into this life altering, middleweight championship that has the ability to affect everybody. Not only could Jaxon go get killed inside that ring, but the same people he might not want to take care of when he wants to be reckless and free like everyone else, it can affect all these people. So there’s just so many push and pulls, and so many tug of wars with a character that’s as dynamic and as deep and multi complex as Jaxon Holley. So it was a lot of fun but it was necessary, and I think it turned out great.

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And it’s a real life drama. I saw the trailer and it’s crazy how the character of Benny on The Have and The Have Nots is a little similar to Jaxon in the movie because you try to hold it all together in the midst of all the family life drama. Do you enjoy taking on such complex roles?
I really do because I feel like it’s such a mirror of my own life. My life is so complex, yeah sometimes it’s bad, but even bad experiences you can learn from. I’ve had so many things that started out as lemon and now I’m drinking lemonade. I love playing complex characters like that because it’s just so much to draw from and they’re real. No villain is always bad and no good guy is always good. You know what I mean? There’s always a ying to the yang, so I look for characters like that. I definitely enjoy them.

Can you remember one experience in life that you can really relate to the character of Jaxon?
I can remember whether it were school. I have lots of instances where I can just remember people trying to steer me. I’m the driver of the ship and I can just remember having lots of outside pressure to do something in my life that someone else may have done in their life. It may have been learning from their experiences, but at the end of the day I have to live my life and do things my way. I’ve had lots of situations like that. Whether it was good or bad, it was just outside things I had to block out in order to succeed and opportunities I had in front of me. Everyone and their mother said do not move to Los Angeles, you are crazy. But I had to do that for myself. It’s just like there’s lots of outside pressures for Jaxon, whether it’s his manager trying to squeeze more money out of him, whether it’s his brother trying to squeeze more money outta him, whether it’s a career that might not be going the best way, whether his blessing for a promiscuous sister. It’s just so much outside circumstances that affect him that he has to end up blocking out because he’s going into a very serious situation and a big opportunity. I’ve had that in life for sure.

Jaxon also meets a female who captures his heart and she’s hiding a secret from him. So how are you, Tyler Lepley, handling fame and the groupies? Because Tyler’s everyone’s man crush Monday, you name it.
(Laughs) I don’t have groupies, not at all. But I think the way to deal with it is almost like going back to that unwavering sense of self. I don’t really put myself in those types of situations really. It doesn’t mean I’m not acceptable to them, but I’ve got a pretty good screening process. It’s not like you have to jump through hoola hoops, (Laughs) but I got good intuition also. I can kind of tell in 10 minutes where this is going. If it’s dangerous, it might just be like a dangerous, fun encounter. There’s a ying to the yang. It’s just fun and cool. If you’re going to do it, just understand what it is. And whatever it is for you. I think to wrap that answer up; the way I deal with all the outside pressures is to go back to who I am. And that’s why you know I’ve been blessed to have never been in a crazy situation yet, because I just go back to, again, my sense of self. And everything and everyone around me reflects that as well.

#Ringside @tvonetv

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What’s your dream role that you have yet to accomplish that you would like to play in the near future?
Something that I haven’t done before. That’s as specific as I can get. I just like roles that can challenge me; something that’s really going to intrigue me and stretch a muscle that I’ve never used before. So I really look for roles like that. And outside of that, I guess something I’ve always wanted to do as a kid, I always wanted to do a big action movie. I come from sports and I come from a very physical world so I would like to do that also. And that’s why I was happy about doing this role too. I got to bring some of the physicality to it. So definitely stuff like that.

Are you currently working on any other projects that you would like to share?
Right now I actually just got back from shooting the latest season of The Have and The Have Nots. Just got back from ATL. It was dope. What we just shot will air at the top of 2017, so you guys will see that at the top of next year. Right now I’m just busy plugging away this Ringside man. I’m so excited for everybody to see what’s going on, on TV One at 7 o’ clock on the fourth. It’s going to be a lot of fun. And then in the meantime you know just steady working on myself. Going to therapy, I go to my voice lessons, I go to my acting coach, and I plug away day by day, inch by inch, to give in top-notch efforts.

Ringside premieres on TV One at 7 p.m. EST on Sept. 4.

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Kirk Franklin And Fred Hammond's 'The Healing' Was More Than A Verzuz Event

Verzuz has been helping fill the void for live musical entertainment and, to an extent, live sports for two months now. On Sunday (May 31), the newly launched platform provided us with a digital worship service by way of gospel greats Kirk Franklin and Fred Hammond.

As the online music battle has grown from producers to artists, Swizz and Tim have been transparent about their efforts to make Verzuz musically inclusive, starting first with giving women some much-needed representation and now expanding into different genres — because Black music is more than rap and R&B.

In April, contemporary gospel greats John P. Kee and Hezikiah Walker organized their own matchup that Timbaland (a COGIC kid himself) and Swizz cosigned and promoted, proving the desire and demand for a Gospel Verzuz outing. Fans have also requested to see Kirk participate because of his hip-hop based productions and his mainstream familiarity. But Sunday’s Kirk Franklin and Fred Hammond pairing, while full of the progressive gospel sound both men are famous for, was straight-up church.

Between the time Timbaland and Swizz announced the special event earlier this week—billed as “The Healing” and featuring opening words of prayer from Bishop TD Jakes—and Sunday, escalation of protests sparked by George Floyd’s murder at the hands of a Minneapolis police officer has literally spread like fire to cities across the country and world. Video and news reports are coming in with furious speed. Peaceful protests are morphing into violence at the hands of agitators. People are furious and scared.

Franklin and Hammond had a large responsibility on their hands yesterday; a delicate balance to maintain. These are moments when even the churched don’t necessarily believe the church can help. But the men of God met the task, setting the tone from the very beginning by appearing in shirts that said: “I Can’t Breathe” (Franklin) and “I Can’t Breathe - Again” (Hammond). Over the course of the event, they mixed straight talk, spiritual encouragement, prayer, and proper acknowledgment of the chaos waiting for us all after we eventually clicked out of the Instagram Live.

Even though Kirk came with and maintained a good-natured “battle” energy, this was ministry and fellowship, not a match. So instead we’re going to review each round with an “and” instead of a “vs.” These two brothers in music ministry were building on and adding to each other’s energy over the course of 2.5 hours. Much like Beenie Man and Bounty Killer's session, this was more a concert than a competition. And the spirit in the room (plus the anointed sound quality) blessed our souls so much that we were willing to forgive the slight social distancing infractions. Even Instagram (allegedly) sent a message for them to ignore the 90-second copyright restrictions and let the spirit move.

ROUND 1: Fred Hammond's “I Am Persuaded” and Kirk Franklin's “He’s Able”

Both Fred and Kirk pulled out early signature songs to set the tone; Fred with the title track from his first solo album, and Kirk with one of the singles from the Kirk Franklin and the Family album. Both songs highlighted how each artist were trendsetters in the contemporary Gospel sound with their music’s early ‘90s New Jack Swing influence.

ROUND 2: Fred Hammond & Radical For Christ's “When the Spirit of the Lord” and Kirk Franklin's “Brighter Day”

Everyone knows Kirk Franklin has jams, but Hammond’s music is mostly known by those who put in years in the youth and young adult choirs, and those who came up in strict households with no secular music. But on Sunday, everybody learned that Frederick also has jams that will make you “dance like David danced.”

Kirk followed with another classic Family joint, and the tenors watching from home stepped up in their collective living rooms to hit that “brighter day” with their chest.

ROUND 3: Fred Hammond's “Awesome God” and Kirk Franklin's “He Reigns/Awesome God”

Kirk and Fred were working from a list, which suggested they coordinated at least parts of their lineups, leaving room for head-to-head rounds like this. If this was a scored match, however, Franklin would get this point. “He Reigns/Awesome God” isn’t his original work, but he flipped and updated it as only he can, and it instantly inspires whatever choreography listeners learned in the afore-mentioned choir 20 years ago.

ROUND 4: Commissioned's “Strange Land” and Kirk Franklin & Georgia Mass Choir's “Joy”

Again, this Verzuz wasn’t just about music, it was about music ministry, and both Franklin and Hammond wove moments of preaching, proclamation, and encouragement throughout. As Kirk had acknowledged at the beginning of the event that some people didn’t even want to hear about Jesus right now, Fred addressed the thought that Christians are just waiting on a “kumbaya moment.” He “(took) it back to Detroit” and played the first song of the night by Commissioned—his former gospel group—“How Can We Sing (In a Strange Land),” which spoke to the seeming futility of something like today’s Verzuz: singing for help in the midst of crisis.

If you're asking How can we sing When we're in a strange land How can we face adversity whoa whoa How can we stand in the midst of trouble When the enemy laughs at our beliefs Won't you take some time to realize You're His own that's why He died

Kirk also reached back to a foundational record; the first song he ever wrote as the young music director of the Georgia Mass Choir. “Joy” is probably the most traditional song in Kirk’s catalog, prompting him to declare that folks probably wouldn’t know it “if your grandmama ain't got peppermint wrapped up in pieces of toilet paper in her purse.” (If you didn’t get that reference, he’s right.) “Joy” is also one of the few songs Kirk actually sings lead on, which is probably why he didn’t play more than a short clip.

ROUND 5: Fred Hammond's "Prelude" (from Love Unstoppable) and Kirk Franklin's “More Than I Can Bear”

Hammond, who provided most of the afternoon’s solemn notes while Kirk mostly kept the energy up, chose a prelude his son and daughter recorded to open his 2009 album as an avenue to share his concern about his own son, a 6’2”, 22-year-old Black man. Kirk picked up the acknowledgment of pain, fear, and uncertainty with The Family’s “More Than I Can Bear,” and then jumped on the keyboard to follow it up with a reprise. This was the first shouting moment of the day.

ROUND 6: Commissioned's “King of Glory” and Kirk Franklin's “Looking for You”

When Franklin and Hammond announced surprises at the top of the first hour, it was a safe assumption that some collaborators were spread out throughout Franklin’s house. First up; Hammond’s former Commissioned group member Marvin Sapp. When the group was already well established, Sapp joined the Commissioned in 1990 and his voice fit right in. The two shared the first single, featuring the then-22-year old, which is now one of Commissioned's signature songs.

This was a turn-up round, so Franklin followed up with the high energy, Patrice Rushen sampled “Looking for You,” but first...

BONUS: Marvin Sapp's “Never Would Have Made It”

Marvin ain’t break social distancing just to sing over the radio track for “King of Glory.” Franklin introduced him with a quick note of “Never Would Have Made It,” Sapp’s powerful 2007 testimonial praise and worship anthem. Sapp feigned reluctance to sing the whole song, but we all know that’s what he was there for. That was the second shout of the day.

ROUND 7: Fred Hammond's “Glory to Glory” and Kirk Franklin's “Hosanna”

This was the praise & worship round: songs with relatively simple and repetitive lyrics that are often used to set the tone in worship. Gospel music contains and or reflects scripture; praise & worship is exactly what the description says and what the lyrics of Hammond and Franklin’s respective selections express:

Let the people praise Him, rejoice in all His goodness, and be thankful for all He has done. - "Glory to Glory"

Hosanna forever, we worship you - "Hosanna"

ROUND 8: Fred Hammond's “Please Don’t Pass Me By” and Kirk Franklin's “Something About the Name Jesus”

Kirk and Fred were a perfect pairing for this Verzuz edition because they both bridged gospel and secular music in groundbreaking—and at times controversial—ways. Fred and former group Commissioned are credited with influencing a generation of male R&B singers; he mentioned later how church elders and gospel traditionalists wouldn’t support Commissioned because they wore jeans on the album cover. Similar to Kirk, Fred’s been known for music that sounded more like something you’d hear on mainstream radio than anything you’d hear in church. Case in point: the music bed for “Please Don’t Pass Me By” brings R&B group 112’s “Cupid” to mind.

In contrast, Kirk responded with the old-school-styled “Something About the Name Jesus” featuring gospel OG Rance Allen and gospel Men of Standard from Franklin's 1998 The Nu Nation Project.

ROUND 9: Fred Hammond's “Jesus Be a Fence Around Me” and Kirk Franklin's “Love Theory”

Rounds 8 and 9 illustrated how this was more of a digital concert than battle; selections that felt more like a well-curated playlist than a back and forth of comparative tracks.

Perhaps taking a cue from Kirk and “Something About the Name Jesus,” Fred shared some of his influences before offering his rendition of gospel standard “Jesus Be a Fence Around Me.” Even though the song is now a standard for church elders, the singers who first popularized it—original writer Sam Cooke with legendary gospel group The Soul Stirrers, soul crooner Lou Rawls with The Pilgrim Travelers (the version closest to Fred’s), and Supreme’s influences The Meditation Singers—were all known for toeing the line between R&B and pop and traditional gospel in their time.

Kirk followed with the lead single from his most recent album, 2019’s Long, Live, Love, a bop (a whole bop) that sounds a million miles away from “Jesus Be a Fence Around Me” and in fact complements Fred’s choice; It’s also about Jesus being a protector. And Kirk blessed us with a little choreography.

ROUND 10: Commissioned's “Love is the Key” and  Kirk Franklin & The Family's “Now Behold the Lamb”

Even if Kirk hadn’t announced what song he was about to play, hands would have shot up in preparatory praise as soon as he played the opening keys of “Now Behold the Lamb.” Originally on The Family’s 1995 Christmas album (Kirk Franklin & the Family Christmas) and featuring vocals of original members-turned- TV-stars David and Tamela Mann, the song still has the power to quickly bring listeners to tears, 25 years later.

ROUND 11: Kirk Franklin's “Revolution” and Fred Hammond's “Let the Praise Begin” 

Before starting this round, Fred and Kirk took a minute to say the names of the Black men whose lives have been unjustly cut down by police or self-appointed vigilantes. (They took a moment later to add the Black women they neglected to initially include.) As protests rapidly grow across the country with many having morphed into riots, Kirk Franklin's Rodney Jerkins-produced “Revolution” hit even harder than usual.

On Fred’s turn, he demonstrated his secular influence again with “Let the Praise Begin”—which Chance the Rapper sampled on his Coloring Book mixtape, “Blessings”—a track the rapper used for an unofficial altar call at the end of his live performances.

ROUND 12: Kirk Franklin's “Silver and Gold” and Fred Hammond's “All Things are Working”

As mentioned earlier, the primary difference between traditional gospel songs and praise & worship songs is the lyrics. “Gospel” is, by definition, from the actual gospel: scripture. Kirk and Fred are both part of a generation of contemporary gospel singers that have been somewhat chided for gospel music’s transition into more of a praise & worship space, but both also have deep foundational gospel roots. These two songs are each prime examples, both taken directly from scriptural influence:

“Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee” - Acts 3:6

“And we know all things work together for good for those who love God and are called according to his purpose” - Romans 8:28

ROUND 13: Kirk Franklin's “Imagine Me” and Commissioned's “Ordinary Just Won’t Do”

If these rounds were themed (I’d love to see their notes), Round 13 was about finding unconditional love and trust in God.

Imagine me, being free, trusting you totally, finally, I can Imagine me I admit it was hard to see You being in love with someone like me But finally I can Imagine me - "Imagine Me"

The ordinary just won’t do I need a love that's pure and true I can always find it in you Jesus The ordinary just won’t do I gotta have a touch from you I can always find it in you, Jesus - "Ordinary Just Won’t Do"

ROUND 14: Kirk Franklin on Kanye West's “Ultralight Beam” and Fred Hammond on Kanye West's “Hands On”

Some collective digital groans went up amongst those in the house solely for Fred and Kirk jams during the round devoted to tracks each done with Kanye West. For Kirk, the rousing “Ultralight Beam” from The Life of Pablo, which also featured Chance the Rapper and R&B/gospel singer Kelly Price. For Hammond, a track from West’s hotly debated “gospel album” Jesus is King. It did make sense: Verzuz started as a hip-hop-leaning platform. Fortunately, though, both seemed to know this round would change the energy if they let it and kept the moment brief.

ROUND 15: Kirk Franklin's “The Reason Why I Sing” and Fred Hammond's “Running Back to You”

Heading into the home stretch, the men each offered their break-out hits. Franklin’s “The Reason Why I Sing” broke records on gospel, Christian, and R&B radio and set him on the path for mainstream crossover. Commission’s “Running Back to You” is one of many templates the groups inadvertently created for male R&B groups that came along a few years later, having come of age singing and studying the Detroit vocalists’ music. Jodeci’s K-Ci Hailey even ad-libbed part of the chorus, “(My) arms are open wide, and I don’t have to cry no more…” on the torch 1992 track “I’m Still Waiting” from the group’s debut album, 5 years later.

ROUND 16: God's Property's  “My Life is in Your Hands” and Fred Hammond's “They That Wait” feat. John P. Kee

“My Life is in Your Hands” by Kirk's gospel choir, God's Property, feels like a sequel of “The Reason Why I Sing,” so it made sense as Franklin’s next choice.

Hammond’s selection was a collaboration with contemporary gospel great John P. Kee. Even though Kee already had his own Instagram Live match, it was plagued with a muffled sound, so he deserved a moment.

ROUND 17: Kirk Franklin's “I Smile” and Fred Hammond's “You are the Living Word”

Before playing the bouncy “Smile,” Kirk acknowledged that in a week that feels like we’re in a civil war, the idea of smiling is likely difficult (the guys did a solid job of reading the room.)

Hammond in turn played fan-favorite “You are the Living Word” but cut it off just as listeners at home were getting into their parts of the three-part harmony. Kirk knew it was too soon and jumped on the piano keys again so Fred could get to the bridge and we could properly get our sing-along on at home.

ROUND 18: Tamela Mann's “Take me to the King” and Fred Hammond and Radical For Christ's “This is the Day”

Tamela Mann just casually strolling into the studio from making the potato salad for post-battle repast in Kirk’s kitchen or wherever she was didn’t fool anybody. Real ones have known what’s up since we were introduced to her voice over 25 years ago as an original member of Franklin’s Family. I knew she was about to make us cry when memes hit our Twitter timelines before she even opened her mouth. Her live rendition of “Take Me to the King,” a song about those moments when prayer just doesn’t feel effective enough, was so powerful and resonated with the times of right now. If you listened carefully, you could hear her shouting for minutes after she left the room.

ROUND 19: Kirk Franklin's “Melodies from Heaven” and Fred Hammond's “No Weapon”

Kirk had a sense of humor about his reputation as a “secular” gospel artist and called his gorgeous wife Tammy into the room to dance as he played “Melodies from Heaven,” a song that’s been played in many a club and has been remixed with Junior Mafia’s “Crush on You,” a mashup that Kirk himself performs in concert.

Hammond used 2007’s “No Weapon” to bring the tempo down as they prepared to close. After Franklin took a minute to call Wanda Cooper, the mother of Ahmad Aubrey, Hammond extended a prayer of invitation and salvation for listeners. If there’s one moment that defines this Verzuz event as a ministry rather than just musical exchanges, that prayer is the moment.

ROUND 20: Kirk Franklin's “Stomp (Remix)" and Fred Hammond's “We’re Blessed”

The men held their strongest jams for last: Kirk with his 1997 career-defining and genre-changing “Stomp (Remix)" (again, former choir members watching the live stream broke out their choreography without even thinking), and Hammond with 1995’s “We’re Blessed,” a track that runs almost six minutes in length that almost all of us would have been happy for him to play in full.

BENEDICTION SELECTIONS: Kirk Franklin's “Strong God,” Fred Hammond's “Alright” and "My Desire"

As everyone filed out of the digital church and tried to figure out where to go for dinner, Franklin and Hammond each offered one last song.

Kirk played “Strong God” another single from his latest album and announced the video’s Monday release (see below). Hammond also rendered a selection from his most recent album, the title track from 2019’s Alright.

To close it out, the men played their first collaboration "My Desire," off Franklin's The Nu Nation Project.

THE WINNER: While The Healing drew fewer numbers than most of the Verzus of the last month, peaking around 277K, the positive responses were overwhelming. Viewers shared that they felt lifted, renewed, and energized. Some expressed that they felt hopeful for the first time in several days. We all won. But if we have to list specific winners, that run down includes Black folks, church kids, music lovers, the audio, and our collective and communal spirits. And Tamela Mann.

Watch Fred Hammond and Kirk Franklin's The Healing over on Verzuz's official Instagram account.  

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Boomshots: The Unstoppable Rise Of Dre Island

"We rise to the top," Dre Island sings on "We Pray," his massive collab with Popcaan, "cause we know what it takes."

Building on that theme of musical and spiritual elevation, the multi-talented musician—singer, deejay, songwriter, producer, and pianist—has just released his debut album Now I Rise. The project features the aforementioned "We Pray" as well as crucial collaborations with the likes of Jesse Royal and Chronixx. "Ah mi family dem deh," says Dre Island, who has toured Europe backed by Chronixx's band Zincfence Redemption. A graduate of Kingston’s Calabar high school—alma mater of both Jr. Gong and Vybz Kartel—Andre Johnson aka Dre Island is a living link between the vaunted “roots revival” movement and the sound of the Jamaican streets.

“The revival is really within the people," he says. "Reggae music never stop. Reggae artists always been touring. So it’s just the people’s awareness.” During a time when reggae and dancehall stand at a crossroads, Dre Island has emerged as one of the few artists capable of bringing together dancehall vibes and the ancient roots traditions—not to mention outernational connections like "People" his collaboration with UK talents Cadenza and Jorja Smith. “An island is a small land mass surrounded by water,” the artist told Boomshots correspondent Reshma B in their first interview. “But if you read further it’s also a place where you go to find yourself.”

Released through a joint-venture partnership with New York-based DubShot Records and the artist's own Kingston Hills Entertainment imprint, Now I Rise is a 13-track set that includes the hit single “We Pray” featuring Popcaan, “My City,” as well as the recently released “Be Okay” feat Jesse Royal. Never-before-heard tracks include “Days of Stone” featuring Chronixx and “Run to Me” featuring Alandon as well as tracks produced by the likes of Jam2, Anju Blaxx, Teetimus, Winta James, Dretegs Music and Barkley Productions. The artist is now managed by Sharon Burke, founder of the Solid Agency in Kingston, Jamaica. Earlier this month, Dre Island premiered the official music video (directed by Fernando Hevetia) for the last song on the album, “Still Remain.”

“This album speaks of arising, growth, new beginnings and emerging from the ashes," Dre Island states. "At this time, these are all the things we need based on what is happening right now. The truth is, since 2015 I have been advertising that the album is coming. It has been five years and the time is right. As an artist and person Dre Island move different. I embrace Rasta and this way of life, but I am not part of any group like Boboshanti or Twelve Tribes. Everything I do is inspired by the father. I am moved to drop this album at this time because I am divinely inspired to do so. When you look at a song like “We Pray” I can take no credit for a song like that. Yes I wrote the lyrics and built the rhythm and I voice the track, but it's a prayer, not just a song so how a man fi tek credit for something that come from above.”

Dre Island and Boomshots have been linking up from early in his musical journey. During a recent trip to New York City, he sat down with Reshma B to speak about the new project and his unstoppable rise. Check the reasoning:

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Anuel AA Breaks Free

In 2015, an entourage of close to 30 men drew guns among one another during a traditional Christmas parranda in Puerto Rico. The scene turned into something straight out of a movie when a pair of gangsters clandestinely attempted to kidnap local rapper Anuel AA. After a brief scuffle and flagrant shouting match, however, the man born Emmanuel Gazmey Santiago went on to finish the evening’s holiday spree in the boisterous company of his loyal posse.

Months later, after ushering in the new year on a promising note by featuring on one of Latin trap’s first global hits – De La Ghetto’s sex anthem “La Ocasion” with Arcangel and Ozuna – someone delivered Anuel AA a divine premonition of sorts: “If you keep talking about this stuff in your songs, something really ugly is going to happen to you.”

A Puerto Rican music legend, Hector “El Father” of reggaeton-turned-son of God, paid Anuel a visit to share his foreboding message. “He and I did not know each other,” explained Anuel, who prides himself on waxing poetics about the real-life experiences Hector was concerned with, “but God spoke to him and Hector felt he needed to reach out to me. When he warned me, he said it with so much conviction that he even cried.”

Having forged a legacy of his own as one of the key trailblazing reggaeton entertainers of the ‘90s who later signed a deal with JAY-Z’s Roc-A-Fella Records, Hector – now a devoted Christian – understood life imitated art when it came to Anuel’s lyrics.

“My lyrics talked a lot about God and the devil, so when he told me that,” Anuel continued, “I knew I needed to make some changes. Those themes, good versus evil, they were my mark and what separated me from the rest.”

On April 3, 2016, just two weeks after meeting with Hector, Anuel was arrested and held in Guaynabo’s correctional institution on charges of illegal gun possession. Following his biggest musical break yet, just as he was touching the cusp of international stardom, a court judge sentenced Anuel to 30 months in federal prison without bail.

Raised east of San Juan, in the Puerto Rican city of Carolina, Anuel AA has a lot in common with many of my favorite MCs: he’s charming, resolute, and lyrically gifted, yet marred by a criminal past, complicit misogyny and the constant struggle between right and wrong. “I had no choice but to carry those weapons with me, because of the issues I had on the street,” the rapper said to VIBE Viva over the phone, while quarantined in Miami. “I thought to myself I’d rather be locked up than found dead.”

Indeed, Anuel had evaded his probable demise when he was nearly abducted and landed right behind bars months later, fulfilling a prophecy that cost him both his freedom and a flourishing start at the tipping point of trap music en Español. “I was being forced to reckon with all the bad things I had done for money in the past,” Anuel expressed, regretfully. “I started reading the Bible for the first time and realized that my talent and blessings came from God, not anywhere else.”

Anuel had begun to take music seriously around the same time his father, José Gazmey, was laid off from his coveted A&R position at Sony Music. With his back against the wall, a scrappy Anuel left home at 15 and began to engage in felonious activity to help provide for his family and finance his music endeavors.

Like many rappers on the island, Anuel was influenced by popular culture and trends on the mainland, most discernibly by contemporary trap. Anuel understood the genre’s synonymy with street life and the drug enterprise and immediately took to Messiah El Artista, a Dominican-American rapper VIBE profiled for championing Spanish-language trap music all over New York.

“I figured if Latin trap was doing well in New York, it was for sure going to pop in Puerto Rico,” said Anuel, who had signed with the Latino division of Rick Ross’ Maybach Music Group the year prior to his arrest. “I spent about a month in New York before I returned to Puerto Rico. Then I started to release all the songs I had, one by one, and they began to gain popularity.”

While artists like J. Balvin helped breathe new life into the reggaeton genre in Colombia, Anuel wanted to spearhead a movement in Puerto Rico with a sound all their own. “I recorded the ‘Esclava’ remix with Bryant Myers and it might not have taken off worldwide, but it became a huge trap song in Puerto Rico.”

Akin to the heydays of reggaeton, an Afro-Caribbean genre-fusing hip-hop and reggae that originated in Puerto Rico, trap music was considered lowbrow and was heavily criticized for its vulgarity, violence, and explicit lyrics. Puerto Rican critics and artists alike had very little faith in the music’s potential and therefore denounced it. “DJ Luian, who is like a brother to me, couldn’t understand why I wanted to put all my energy into music that none of our artists wanted to sing.”

“Reggaeton went dormant for years,” he continued. “It was necessary to make trap music, because it felt like reggaeton was stuck in another era.” A self-described student of the late and oft-controversial Tupac Shakur, Anuel thought reggaeton had reached its pinnacle and believed Latin trap would be its successor.

Songs like “Nunca Sapo,” where Anuel channels Rick Ross’ Teflon Don ethos and spits a grimy slow-tempo flow over a sinister 808-laden instrumental, helped put a face to Anuel’s little-known name in the US. On cuts like Farruko’s “Liberace,” Anuel speeds up his delivery for fun and plays on the “Versace” rhythm popularized by Migos, who all hail from Atlanta—the widely credited birthplace of trap music.

For Anuel, whose life mantra “real hasta la muerte” is now a famous hashtag, music aspirations had little to do with radio play. Anuel, 27, was largely concerned with dominating the digital space, especially while incarcerated. Despite his arrest, he continued to release music from behind prison walls while his team fed his massive following up-to-date content.

Hear This Music CEO, DJ Luian heeded what Anuel was trying to accomplish and began to work with Bad Bunny, the Latin Grammy-winning artist and star voice of the current Latin trap movement. “When I was locked up, Luian helped develop Bad Bunny and he basically became in charge of keeping trap alive while I was away,” said Anuel, who ironically came under fire recently and was accused of throwing shade at Bad Bunny for the video treatment of “Yo Perreo Sola,” in which the rapper-singer dresses in drag as a stance against toxic masculinity.

“I couldn’t believe something like this was going viral,” Anuel interrupted anxiously before I could expound on a question concerning their relationship. “It looked like it was something that was edited or put together to make my Instagram posts read that way. I immediately texted Bad Bunny about it and he was like, ‘Don’t worry, people are always going to be talking sh*t.’”

Anuel considers Bad Bunny a genius at what he does and maintains that despite not knowing each other very well, he and his fellow compatriot are friendly collaborators with a working rapport: “When he and I do a new song together, what will people say then?”

Today, the collective jury will reach a verdict upon listening to Anuel’s newly-released sophomore studio album Emmanuel, where fans will find a track titled “Hasta Que Dios Diga,” a sultry, mid-tempo reggaeton number. Fans can expect to hear a star-studded project riddled with guest features, including Tego Calderón, Daddy Yankee, Enrique Iglesias, J. Balvin, Ozuna, and Karol G, to name a few.

Discussing life during a global pandemic, Anuel spoke fondly of his partner-in-rhyme, Colombian singer-songwriter Karol G. “She’s the love of my life. She’s been there with me through the good and bad. People who really love you are the ones who stand firm by you when things are bleak. In my toughest moments, Karol was there. She’s shown me how to be a better man,” he gushed.

“Karol comes off as super feminine—which she is, but Karol also has a really tough masculine side,” Anuel laughed heartily on the other end of the line. “She rides motorcycles and likes taking them up these crazy hills. She rides jet skis too! She’s like a dude, haha. We work well together and we give each other advice all the time.”

The pair are making the most of quarantine life in South Florida, releasing a self-directed and self-shot music video for their joint single “Follow,” a reference to flirting over social media in the era of social-distancing, the idea that shooting one’s proverbial shot can lead to a budding romance.

On July 17, 2018, Anuel dropped his debut studio album, Real Hasta La Muerte, hours before he was released from jail. By September, the RIAA certified his introduction to the game platinum, garnering the attention of Roc Nation artist Meek Mill. When the Philly wordsmith released his fourth studio LP in November of the same year, followers were geeked to learn Anuel had earned himself a place on Meek’s highly anticipated Championships album with “Uptown Vibes.”

I always wanted you and anuel aa to make a track together bc i feel like he’s the meek mill of spanish trap , how was it working with him ?

— Nagga (@naggareports) December 17, 2018

“Recording with Meek Mill for me was like when Allen Iverson played with Michael Jordan for the first time,” Anuel said, singing praises about their first-ever partnership. “I’m a huge fan of Meek; when his music took off I was still in the streets, so I related and identified with a lot of the things he was saying.”

“Meek doesn’t understand a lick of Spanish,” he mused in jest, “but he’s always with a bunch of Latinos. When I speak to him he says, ‘I don’t know what you’re saying, but my Spanish [speaking] ni**as tell me you be talking that sh*t!’”

Anuel leveraged his knack for storytelling and released “3 de Abril” earlier this year, an emotional freestyle about the day he was arrested and a graphic snapshot of his trials and tribulations.

“I did things without caring about the consequences. I thought I was a man because I was street smart. Now I know what it’s like to lose everything, so I wanted to talk more about my life and the experiences of me and my family,” Anuel described the inspiration behind the song.

Following the release of “3 de Abril,” Anuel again turned hip-hop heads when he and Lil Pump shared a fiery audiovisual for their collaborative effort “Illuminati,” stamping Pump's first new song since summer 2019. This year, Anuel also has songs with Colombian pop empress Shakira (“Me Gusta”) and with the late Juice WRLD (“No Me Ames”).

Albeit Anuel and Juice WRLD never got to meet in person, Anuel learned about the Chicago rapper from listening to his singles on the radio in jail. “The same year I won Billboard Latin’s Artist of The Year award, Juice WRLD won New Artist at the American Billboard Awards. We ended up recording the song after that but held off on releasing it for a bit because he and I had respective singles coming out at the same time,” Anuel explained.

“By the time we were finally ready to premiere it, Juice WRLD had passed away. We were never able to record together in person, but at least we got to feature him on the video. I know the tribute gave his fans and family some needed strength.”

Less than 30 minutes have gone by and already I am forced to wrap my conversation with Boricua’s burgeoning superstar:

Anuel, explain “real hasta la muerte” for me. Why exactly is this mantra of yours so important? 

“I can’t betray anyone. I don’t know what it’s like to really betray someone. I’m very loyal to my circle, my family, and those I hold close to me. Being real is what keeps me humble. It doesn’t matter how much money I make or how much I accomplish. What’s critical is staying real to myself and keeping my feet on the ground. That’s what helps keep me going.”

This interview was translated from Spanish to English and has been edited and condensed for clarity.

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