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Speaking With The Founder Of 'Latinas For Trump' Is As Bizarre As You Can Imagine

Welp…

Donald Trump's hate-filled rhetoric set the climate for the presidential election of 2016. His announcement speech took the nation by storm when his comments stigmatized the Mexican immigrant figure. Trump went on to blame Mexicans for crime and drugs, he even labeled them as "rapists," before adding insult to injury by assuming that "some may be good people."

The realty of the situation is that people risk their lives everyday crossing the border in hopes for a better tomorrow. The crossing of a border often means physical pain and emotional trauma. Some individuals don't even make it alive to see the other side of the frontier, the promise land, where their dreams of a better life can come to fruition with hard work. Sacrificing everything they have ever known and loved, everything they have ever attained, sacrificing their own dignity for hopes of benefiting from the opportunities offered in the “land of the free.”

Although I am not Mexican, nor an immigrant (by legal standards), I felt personally assaulted and attacked by Trump's comments. As a Colombian-American, I felt that tactic of unity come into play, thinking that those in higher or more optimal positions would give voice to our black and brown communities, the very ones disallowed by the mainstream. But making this assumption was my first mistake.

As hate speech like the kind Trump continues to spew became more and more apparent in social media, news headlines and political forums, organizations such as Latinas For Trump were created and, soon enough, empowered by growing numbers. My curiosity (and moral compass) lead me to question the support of a man who, on a regular basis, sabotages the very identities that make up Latinas For Trump, which is to say women, and of Latino descent.

Meet Denise Gálvez, the 41-year-old first generation, Cuban-American entrepreneur who actually co-founded the controversial organization. Below is a lengthy excerpt from our conversation. Take heed, this might get uncomfortable…

VIBE Viva: What political party do you identify yourself with?
Denise Galvez: The Republican Party. I used to identify as an independent, but the older I got and the more financial responsibilities I attained—being an entrepreneur and a business owner—the Republican Party seemed like the best fit. I can see why a lot of millennials are registered as democrats, because socially the policies make sense when you are inexperienced with minimal responsibilities.

Based on your response, would you say that conservative ideology is based on immediate loved ones as opposed to overall society?
Absolutely, especially when you are living paycheck to paycheck. And it doesn't mean that you don't have a heart, it’s just that reality doesn't allow you to afford to.

What was your initial reaction as a Latina to Trump's opening speech?
I find it important to state that initially, I was not a Trump supporter. I was always supportive of the idea of a business owner running to be president, but not Trump due to his lack of experience in politics. In the primaries, that’s when I decided to be in support, but [I had to go] back and thoroughly listened to his opening speech, which most people that interviewed me have not heard it in its entirety…

So, what were your thoughts then?
The image the mainstream media portrayed of the speech is not what I got out of it. Granted, I am not Mexican and I am not an illegal so I didn't feel like it was personal to begin with, but my takeaway is that he was addressing only the criminals. And speaking to people that are here illegally, most didn't take it personally either, because they felt the same, he's only addressing the criminals.

So, you see some sort of validation in his speech?
In hindsight, I understood his perspective, but as a PR person he could have been more eloquent in his choice of words. "Some" should have been replaced with "A lot" but he's clarified since then that he's only talking about criminals. It's a result of him saying things without thinking twice of the ramifications.

Is that a concern for you?
Of course, it makes it difficult for him to get through to the people that are undecided. But being in business, I've dealt with businessmen like Trump and I've had no choice but to toughen up and deal. But I also know that these men that talk politically rough around the edges have the biggest hearts. I'm less concerned with him being polished and more concerned with what he believes in his heart and what he ends up doing.

What Trump policies stand out to you the most throughout his campaign?
The fact that he's not a politician, and it’s clearly noted throughout his speeches, [which are] not politically correct. He also does not have any corporate funding to manipulate him.

OK… Trump's comments in the final debate connected undocumented citizens directly to heroin, regarding the epidemic. How do you feel about that?
He's not a teleprompter expert like Obama, but I don't think it's offensive because it's a real issue. In my own neighborhood, unfortunately, there's a lot of Latino gang members dealing "la flaka" and the epidemic is a real issue with numbers that support it. All those drugs being trafficked are coming through Mexico, not necessarily from Mexico, but through Mexico.

But the leading drug overdose is pain relievers, which are made from opiates, the same as heroin and could lead to heroin use.
I personally don't think he should off the cuff like that without very detailed information, even though I know there's data to support what he said.

What do you think is the direct reason for this Trump sensation?
In the perspective of Americans, we've had a president for the past eight years who's amazing at giving speeches, who is politically correct but has no actions. So, [with Trump] I think people need to worry less about his words and focus more on change and action.

Are you saying that the current political state is directly responsible for the Trump sensation?
Our political state has allowed me as a Latina to be tolerable with Trump.

So, is it safe to say he's not the perfect candidate?
Of course not, there are a million things wrong with him, but he is who we got right now. Neither candidate is ideal. But I am not voting for Trump because of Hillary, but because I want to see a businessman in office. I don't agree with how he says things, but at his core and at my core I agree with him. I agree with wanting to bring back jobs in this country and renegotiating trade agreements, in removing the death taxes, and the tax cuts because the corporate taxes he wants to lower applies to small business owners. Reducing the burdens and regulations on business owners will increase the economy by allowing business people to create jobs. "When people are given the right opportunities they make the right decisions." He's extreme on abortion; I'm a little more moderate.

How do you feel about Trump’s comments concerning building the wall?
I agree with it, houses need walls for protection and no one that is coming here legally should take offense to that.

And what about his stance on immigration?
People come and go as they please, and all the money earned isn't for here in the U.S., it's all money being sent back to Mexico.

So, what about the hardworking undocumented immigrants that contribute to society in paying taxes and don't commit felonies?
Once we unburden the system with all the criminals that we're here supporting and the visa overstays and stuff then we can put everybody else in line.

So, you believe in the legalization of undocumented immigrants?
If families want to bring their family and start a life here I'm all for it, but that's not that case. The dad comes and works and they send all their money back to their wives and kids.

Some parents may not want their child or loved ones to cross the border, because it is life threatening.
But that's not the case because I ask them, and they say it's because they live great over there. But coming here to mooch off our government, food stamps, and our education.

How can they "mooch off" the government if they are essentially invisible?
I know for a fact that illegals come here and get declared mentally-disabled and right away start collecting disabilities.

I've never heard of that.
Of course not because you'd have to investigate that. Not to mention that no one in this country is refused medical treatment, so they're allowed to go to our hospitals and clinics and receive services. They come here to have their babies because they get great treatment, top of the line treatment and then go back after they take our services. And no one is checking that we're providing money and government funds for someone that doesn't live in this country. And I'm not saying that's a majority, but there are a lot of cases like that. And it's not only Mexicans, it's all Latin American countries.

How do you feel about the hypocrisy in the Trump allegations? What with his slandering undocumented citizens for not paying taxes, but he has yet to pay any…
That statement is not true, people need to understand the difference between personal taxes and corporate taxes. The allegations are that he hasn't paid personal taxes in 20 years, which is not true because the leak of his 2013 taxes showed he paid in millions, where he overpaid in taxes, which was verified by the IRS to be true. [This was eventually proved to be a false statement after the interview] But he has contributed in society in paying payroll taxes, corporate taxes, real estate taxes, and property taxes. None of these allegations are factual, they are just tactics by the Democratic Party. I personally have not paid personal taxes in the last three years because I cashed out more in the overhead. But that doesn't mean [Trump] hasn't paid taxes and contributed to the system.

But the company paid taxes. He, personally, has not.
But guess who owns the company, so if at the end of the year if you show you've taken more losses than profits, so legally he can.

So, why do you think he doesn't release his taxes?
I think because he has a big ego and he's not worth as much as he says he is. But regardless, everything he has done is legal.

But legal does not mean moral.
If we were in the discussion of legal and moral than Hillary wouldn't be in office, because she has done stuff that is illegal and hasn't been charged for it.

So, you’re stating he is not hypocritical for the employment of undocumented persons, manufacturing overseas, or paying taxes?
He has a licensing deal and the products being manufactured are out of his control, he should have looked more into where the product was being licensed, but he didn't. His decisions are the product of a system, you can fault him for exploiting these options in a country that doesn't allow for you to do so. If he did things how he was supposed to and in-house his products would need to be charged double of what they are now. You can't fault a private business owner for failures of a system. Every company does it.

But every company is not condemning the acts he practices and running for president at the same time, that's why it is viewed as hypocritical.
It's more hypocritical of the left to make promises they are not intending to keep. I would rather vote for a businessman that did what he did to make his company profitable as opposed to one who gives false promises.

As a woman how do you feel about the audio of the "locker room talk?"
Obviously, I prefer men not talk like that around any women, especially around my daughters or any children. I feel like it was a political tactic used to sabotage him. He didn't know he was being recorded. And just like the majority of men who talk like that amongst themselves, women do the same when they are amongst themselves. But the media painted an image of him as someone who is promoting sexual assault.

You don't think his comments promote sexual assault?
Nope, not at all. He was saying that because he is famous and rich he can get women to do almost anything. You know who's fault that it is, women, stupid women that date men and allow the men to do whatever they want because they are rich and famous. And he never said, "I am encouraging all men to do this."

But his comments as a public figure influence the masses, don't you think?
But he said that in private amongst other men. And by the way, he said that how many years ago? Not when he was a public figure.

But he was and still is a public figure.
He was a private person, he is a businessman who happens to be idolized, and that is society’s problem. The fact that society idolizes him is society’s problem, not his.

So, you don't think he chose to be a political figure?
Of course not, he chose to be a successful businessman.

But he was hosting the show The Apprentice.
Yeah, but do you think he came up with that idea? And the same channel that wanted to promote him as a celebrity is now dedicating to sabotaging his character. And unfortunately, he said "yes" because he has an ego, but he didn't set out to be a God-like figure.

He's always had a public persona.
His public persona is a byproduct of his success as a businessman.

You can be a successful businessman and be more reserved and private, he chose to not be private and that was a choice he made.

[Silence]

How do you feel about his stance on the Central Park Five and its relation to the "locker room talk?"
I don't know about the Central Park Five so I won't speak on it, but as for the "locker room talk," the recordings have been over charged and scrutinized. They made him sound like a criminal, and once again he is not a criminal. He was NOT endorsing or promoting sexual deviance, he was saying because of his celebrity status he can get women to do almost anything. That's not saying he raped them or he forced himself upon them, he is saying that the women give in and let him do anything. That's not anything more than talking crap about how women are so stupid. To me, that is more of a conviction of woman on how stupid they can be when around celebrities and money. If you're offended by that you must be one of those women, because it does not offend me.

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But comments such as "grab them by the pussy" shouldn't be a norm.
But I'm sure you've been out with the guys and comments like this float around and you just stuck around or partaken in it to be cool.

No, I actually never heard similar statements in a conversation. But I have been around conversations that demoralize women. I personally don't partake in it and actually challenge the statements.
So, you've never looked at a woman and said "she has a nice ass" or "I'd like to grab her ass."

No, and there's a difference between physical attraction and derogatory terms implying physical assault.
Again, I'm not condoning this behavior, but this type of speech does happen, but it does not mean that they act on it. And in the past, we've had presidents that talk all pretty and sleep with women in the oval office. So do we care about how they talk or how they act? People live in a world that doesn't exist, with an unrealistic utopian view on what our president should be like. But they are human, and men are men. As long as what they are doing is not illegal, I don't care about what they are saying behind closed doors. I'm more concerned with what Hillary is saying behind closed doors, what does she really think about Latinos or blacks?

His character isn't a concern for you at all?
No, I'm more concerned about his actions. We have three branches of government that won't allow him to just drop nuclear bombs off irrational thought. So we're just taking a gamble on a guy who has a character that is less than perfect. Would you rather a man that makes mistakes and admits to them or a woman who lies and never admits to making mistakes?

How do you feel about Hillary?
Unfortunately, I think her thirst for power has allowed her to make a lot of bad decisions, which were only for her benefit. I can't support someone like that. If she admitted to her mistakes with humility I would support her over Trump.

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It’s been 15 years since B2K hit the stage together. Fifteen. That’s more than a decade and enough time to graduate from high school, start a “real-life” job, experience the genesis of social media and witness the end of 106 & Park. Yet, here we here.

“Girl you messed up when you let me in,” Omarion sings along to their club single, “Uh-Huh,” as the boys move in a ripple effect to the staircases on stage left and right.

The crowd joins: “Told your best friend that you wanted me / Then she called me up and hipped me to your steez / Told me that you were lookin' for a guy like me…”

The boys erupt into a choreographed number, executing a series of sharp two-steps and pop-n-locks. Their flawless synchronization hasn’t tired. Not a step is missed as the group bobs and weaves through one another to their next mark, their all-white ensembles projecting the stage light back into the audience. The crowd doesn’t take a breath in between verses as they belt out every word to the group’s hypnotizing discography.

One of the most important things learned from shadowing B2K during the apex of their comeback is that timing is everything. While simultaneously entertaining, unpredictable and aggravating, these fleeting moments with the talk of 2019’s tour circuit—for better or for worse—will ultimately provide some type of explanation for more than a decade’s worth of unanswered questions.

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Haziness aside, the band is back together and claiming their place against a cream seamless in Midtown Manhattan. It’s our first introduction to the boys one month ahead of the Jersey concert, and as seasoned artists in the game, they exhibit a strong sense of awareness of their angles and spacing. Raz-B opens his shoulders at a 45-degree angle so Fizz’s best side can absorb the light. Omarion insists on performing a portion of their stage routine in a diamond-formation of chairs so each acute motion opens a window for members in the back to catch the camera lens.

“Why have one when you can have four Chris Browns?” Lil Fizz will later quip, nodding to their iconic choreography.

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During the course of the evening, each member alternates in and out of the Times Square studio at least four times. Omarion, the first one on set, maneuvers between snacking on a fun-size bag of chips and calculating the physics of a new spin-and-toe-kick he put together in mere seconds. In less than an eight count, O moonwalks out and Raz-B emerges in his place. Raz mixes and mingles with folks along the periphery of the set, quizzing them on the best workday, entertainment spots. Then just like that, he disappears.

A flash of anticipation boils until J-Boog arrives. He hovers over the set with business-like acumen, observing the backdrop to coordinate with his wardrobe. He nods in great thought before retreating to the dressing room for a quick shape-up. Lastly, Fizz pops up with no fair warning. It’s tough to see where his attention is as he stands in perfect silence. By the time Fizz gets acclimated, he’s already slipped away until the last hurrah.

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There are several mutations of B2K’s story – some rumors, others exaggerations. It all depends on who tells it, but the one constant is how quickly their conception and ascension happened.

As their tale goes, the group met in 1998. At the time, Jarell Damonté “J-Boog” Houston Sr., De'Mario Monte “Raz-B” Thornton and Dreux Pierre “Lil Fizz” Frédéric were a part of a different group called Melodic. It wasn’t until New Year’s Eve ‘99 that they invited Omari Ishmael “Omarion” Grandberry to join the band. (False reports claim they met at Marques Houston’s 18th birthday party, but the quartet debunked that rumor in an interview with AOL’s BUILD series.) The new quartet would call themselves B2K, an acronym for “Boys of the New Millennium,” of the “Y2K” (the year 2000) era. B2K, the final four, or as Raz will later kid, the Avengers – whatever you want to call them, it would turn out that their star power, in fact, was somewhat supernatural.

They were all inner city kids by way of Los Angeles, California. Fizz notes they “probably would have never hung out with each other” as they were from different parts of the city. Yet, some unearthly force saw the vision before them.

“Los Angeles is a melting pot for all different cultures and creativity. It's really a ground to cultivate artists,” Omarion explains. “Life has shaped it where the fellas [the pioneering three] were already linked up together and certain family members know certain family members... This is meant to be.” (Jhene Aiko, who was marketed as Fizz’s cousin, was also their labelmate on the now-defunct TUG; Fizz and Omarion’s ex-partner, Apryl Jones, knew each other since they were teens.)

The group breached mainstream success in 2001 with their Tricky Stewart-produced debut single, “Uh Huh,” a punchy dance record with repetition too irresistible to disregard. The boys’ debut album B2K was next, peaking at No. 2 on the Billboard 200 chart. The certified-Gold project included the follow-up releases, “Gots Ta Be” and “Why I Love You.”

By the end of the year, B2K — or rather the life-size poster versions of them, courtesy of Word Up! Magazine — were plastered on the walls and ceilings of just about every pre-teen and teen girl’s bedroom. You could even own a supplemental portrait of your favorite member: Omarion, the Scorpio; J-Boog, the Leo; Raz-B, the Gemini; and Lil Fizz, the Sag.

After embarking on Scream Tour II with Lil Bow Wow, the group returned in 2002 with their fourth single, “Bump, Bump, Bump,” an R. Kelly-penned banger featuring Diddy (the group would later announce their decision to retire songs written by Kelly after the tour due to his ongoing sexual abuse accusations). The song served as an appetizer for their 2002 sophomore project, Pandemonium!. The album debuted at No. 10 on the Billboard 200. “Bump, Bump, Bump” peaked at No. 1 on the Hot 100, becoming the group’s first number one hit and the last time a boy band would sit atop the chart for nearly 16 years — a record that was broken in March 2019 by the Jonas Brothers.

The new millennium wasn’t an uncommon timezone for boy bands. *NSYNC, the Backstreet Boys and 98 Degrees were mainstays, but everything about B2K felt different. For starters, they were an all-black, hip-hop group that oozed a flava that couldn’t be taught. “We contributed to a type of freedom. Our style, the colors that we chose to wear, it was very unique,” Omarion explains.

The video for “Girlfriend,” directed by producer and B2K’s then-manager Chris Stokes, is a perfect illustration of what they brought to the table. It assembled an elite cast of black actors and musicians including Will Smith, Vivica A. Fox, and Ronald Isley. The visual storytelling was indicative of a black teenage saga minus the Godfather-esque kidnapping scenes, but there were several other defining factors. Their vocals possessed more attitude; their lyrics illustrated a sexual maturity; their choreography flowed with ease; their oversized velour jackets with sports bands to match appeared “rougher” than their more pop counterparts. For music executives and future pop stars, B2K’s natural vibe would be something to aspire to or even steal, but for them, it was just what being a ghetto superstar was all about.

The term “ghetto supastar” originates from Pras’ 1998 collaboration with Ol Dirty Bastard and Mya, but was reintroduced around 2002 with B2K’s hit, “Girlfriend (Remix).” The phrase carries a lot of different meanings, much like how the “F” in Weezy F. Baby stands for an array of adjectives, but Boog’s definition seems the most fitting. “I'm all for the deprived legends,” he says candidly. “I'm from Compton. Some of the greatest artists in music history come from there. So when I say ghetto superstar, it's ‘cause there's a million superstars there for me – football to baseball – that just never get the chance. A ghetto superstar is somebody that comes from there and was always a star.”

The height of their success, although fleeting, captured the zeitgeist of early 2000s pop culture – the retro fashion, the dynamic dance moves, and overnight stardom. The Millennium Tour is just a capsule to solidify that notion. The demand for the reunion was merciless, as they tell it. “Dang y’all still ain’t forgot about this,” Fizz remembers asking himself. They hadn’t. The three-month, spring tour has grossed $5 million and sold more than 56,542 tickets in just two months, making it the second-highest grossing tour of 2019.

In many aspects, it really was about timing, Omarion discloses. Fizz and O finished filming for the Love & Hip Hop franchise, Boog inked multiple undisclosed business deals, and Raz-B just returned from a seven-year adventure in China. Their synched schedules heavily impacted their decision to say yes to the tour promoter’s pleas, but Raz concedes his handiwork ultimately thrust the wheels in motion. “I’ve been trying to put the group together for 16 years,” he admits, noting his efforts to secure the B2K trademark for the group. “Just like Fizz said, I never left the group. They like to say the universe; I like to say the price.”

The announcement of the tour’s lineup, comprised of Chingy, Bobby Valentino, Ying Yang Twins, Lloyd, Pretty Ricky, and Mario, triggered some artists. Fellow singer and child star, Sammie, criticized the tour organizers for excluding him. “Can we go on record and finally say that the promoter reached out to B2K to go on tour,” Boog clarifies, dismissing the question playfully. “We didn't have nothing to do with none of that other stuff – the lineup, nothing.”

Drama aside (or at least for the moment), the boys assert the tour has been, “straight pandemonium.” A girl at the Newark meet-and-greet was so frantic to see Fizz that she leaked a little on his lap in the midst of getting her picture taken. “It's funny to see them hold back 'cause they're adults,” Omarion muses, although, in Fizz’s case, that girl let go. “But then they come to the experience and they wanna grab you and stuff again.” Soiled trousers and a couple of wolfish hands reaching for their packages in the front row would turn out to be the least of their worries.

 

B2K has been up all night. Nearly 30 minutes before our scheduled sit-down at Jersey City’s Hyatt Regency Hotel, they cancel the interview. Less than 12 hours prior, Raz-B shares an Instagram video, announcing his resignation from the Millennium Tour, less than 10 shows in.

“Raz-B is officially off the tour,” he declared in the now-deleted PSA. “I don’t feel safe because I feel like Chris Stokes is around.”

Hours after his initial announcement, Raz rescinds his retirement, stating he will persevere due in part to his fans. None of the members respond to his statement on social media. A rep confirms the tour is happening, but the guys’ aura is too heavy to commit to an in-person interview today. Frankly, this snag in the schedule feels all too familiar.

In 2004, Stokes shocked fans by announcing the group’s disbandment. The news landed just as shockingly as Raz’s recent video and hit B2K’s day-one fanbase like a punch in the gut. The breakup ultimately activated a butterfly effect of bad news.

The first headline reported that the members were unsatisfied with Stokes’ management and demanded to be compensated fairly. That blurb was eclipsed by Raz-B’s home video accusing Stokes, his cousin, of molesting him as well as others in the group. (Stokes has adamantly denied the abuse accusations. In 2018, he tweeted: “I never hurt any of B2K.”) While Omarion, Fizz, and Boog denied the allegations, still citing the mishandling of finances as the reason, Raz’s claim left a dark cloud over the group. The real-life nightmare arrived on the heels of their 2014 dance cult classic You Got Served, and smack-dab in the middle of the blogging era. Our understanding of PTSD and sexual assault, pre-Me Too movement, was in the grey area, which opened the door to insensitive jokes on the Internet and in pop culture (Yung Joc’s 2008 single “Lookin’ Boy” makes a thoughtless remark about Raz’s allegations). It also didn’t help that Fizz recorded a YouTube video dissing Omarion’s solo success and dismissing Raz-B’s truth.

Not everyone took the break-up lightly. Girls around the nation drained their eyes. Literal tears. “I attribute it to watching [Michael] Jordan retire after his third ring. You're like, ‘No way, that's not what I want to see. You're still great. Come back, please,’” Boog realizes. “I think back, when we were younger, we really didn't understand how intense the situation was. But meeting [the fans] now, 15 years later and hearing them talk about it and how devastated they were, I kind of get it more as an adult. Like ‘damn, that was kind of messed up.’” Fizz echoes the thought. “We weren't there. It's different when you're in the game. You're not able to see it,” he echoes. “The fish looking out the bowl can't see how big it is.”

B2K’s end marked another loss for pop culture. The industry already sustained two hits with the Spice Girls disbanding in 2000, followed by 98 Degrees’ dispersion in 2002. But to lose B2K, a staple of black representation within the millennial market, felt like a devastatingly low blow. Even so, Raz-B’s recent triggering remarks unveil the haunting effects of childhood trauma and the pressure on black men to suffer in silence.

Fans rallied behind Raz after his Instagram announcement, but reports of unrest within the group were also met with huff-and-puff attitudes as if folks believed the singer intended to sabotage the tour. The relentless spotlight of social media coupled with the lasting impression of built-up anguish is a lethal cocktail and has only spilled over as time has progressed. The gravity of Raz-B’s plight hit again when he was arrested in May 2019 for domestic abuse against his current girlfriend, with less than 10 shows left on the tour.

“Raz-B takes full responsibility for his actions,” the singer’s team said in a statement following his arrest. “This incident represents a turning point after years of isolation, surpassed emotions, and unhealthy coping mechanisms in response to childhood trauma… Being on tour has forced deep-seated issues to resurface that must be addressed.”

I ask Raz-B during our solo phone conversation, nearly 15 shows after his video statement and ahead of his arrest if he feels comfortable with the tour’s current atmosphere. He snickers knowingly. “I’m very grateful and happy that B2K is back together. That’s my comment,” he says with political correctness. It’s a predictable, yet contradictory sound bite. Weeks prior to our phoner, Raz welcomed dialogue, encouraging me to come to the interview with “good questions.” Even as the group and individual interviews commenced, he frequently complimented the line of questioning, but only spoke openly when he was alone, and even then, he offered neutral answers. “I just want to stay in a real positive space if you know what I’m doing. I know you want to get your story,” he utters, hesitant to stir any more controversy.

Perhaps, this turbulence needed to develop in order for it to be addressed, but his final answer – vague in one regard – indicates that his perspective on that portion of B2K’s history will only come when he is ready.

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Past and present trauma and the constant cycle of loved ones dying to gun violence isn’t a part of every pop star’s “True Hollywood Story.” Unfortunately, when you’re black and connected to the hip-hop landscape, this sort of pain is omnipresent. Nonetheless, the show is still expected to go on.

One hour before their Newark, New Jersey stage debut and 30 minutes ahead of their rapid-fire VIP meet-and-greet, Lil Fizz’s chirpy ringtone interrupts our group sit-down backstage. West coast rapper Nipsey Hussle has been shot six times outside of his South Central, Los Angeles clothing store.

The room feels as though it’s been pressurized. Arm hairs stand at attention and the silence feels eerily like thunder. The conversation pivots into a quest for information. As J-Boog and Fizz touch base with their people via cell, it becomes apparent how small the L.A. community is. J-Boog is close to Hussle’s wife, Lauren London; Fizz refers to the L.A. artist as his “brother”; Omarion went to Hamilton High School with him; Raz says they were in talks of creating new music. Their immediate reactions to the news are the most sobering. Fizz masks his watering eyes behind a pair of shades before burying his head in his lap. Boog, anguished and stricken with distress, disappears on the phone between a crack in the wall. It feels invasive to stare.

Nipsey Hussle is confirmed dead seconds after the hour-long meet-and-greet ends. By then, they’ve already retreated to their dressing rooms for showtime. With mobs of people crying at the loss of someone they’ve never met, it makes you wonder: how will they go on?

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Before the Millennium Tour started, the group anticipated hurdles. With a history as turbulent as theirs, expecting bumps should be mandatory. “We always knew what it would take if we decided to do it again. It’s like a formula that we’ve always stuck to,” Omarion confesses. “I think you have to [expect] unforeseen occurrences, but we definitely didn't focus on that.”

Nip’s death was obviously never something they could account for, but they were aware of the questions that would be asked about them. Where have you been? Why did you break up? Are you guys friends again? Perhaps that’s why they included the summary video in the opening act of their show. Produced by Artistar Entertainment’s Deji LaRay, the three-minute visual takes fans through a digital View-Master of newsreels from the start of their career to the very end – the good, the bad, and the ugly. A handful of women in the front middle section of the Prudential Center literally screamed, “OMG,” stunned by the group’s transparency.

“We seen it before the tour started,” Fizz says. “We were all in shock like, wow, this is incredible. It gives everybody the story leading up to now. I think it added a lot of shock value to the tour.”

Raz, on the other hand, seems standoffish about the video when asked about it individually. “Hey, it is what it is,” he says matter-of-factly. “We want to touch on one part of the story, and it is what it is… That chapter of life is there.”

Another foreseeable element was the work that needed to be done for the tour to happen. Sure, there were strict dietary restraints and workout schedules, but it’s also worth noting the self-care, therapy, and communication amongst the members. “I think that is the therapy, which is the communication, speaking as enlightened four brothers from four different corners of the universe,” Raz-B says. Communication doesn’t mean they agree on everything, but it seems to have played a part in why the tour continues to go on despite its various missteps.

Lessons have been learned both on and off the stage. For three of the members, fatherhood has taught them self-love and the value of time. For Raz, his hiatus in China taught him culture, “grace, humility, [and] more compassion.” As a group, they learned financial literacy. “There’s always a conversation about business when it comes to the entertainment industry,” Omarion explains. “First of all, most artists that are creative are not administrative. How do you play a show and then go backstage, make sure your numbers [are] right? It's really difficult.”

Boog cosigns Omarion’s sentiment, illustrating a tale that is all too common amongst early-2000s acts who weren’t involved in their financial planning. “It’s so much going on, and then things get moving and you start to not check on everything the way you're supposed to check on everything,” he recalls, seemingly from personal experience. “If you not in it for the business and you in it for the fame and the little trinkets, then you just gonna be like whatever. That's the way the industry eventually gets you out of your business. Then you look back like, ‘damn I should've been on my sh*t.’”

Although the music industry is a tough teacher at times, the group insists the lessons they learned in communication, family, and money are at the forefront of their reunion and their individual endeavors.

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To witness four fine black men who stole a fragment of every girl’s childhood on stage feels electrifying. What’s been a reunion for the boys has also turned into a homecoming and celebration for former middle school and high school friends. It feels like “old times” – girls gushing over autographs on their vintage denim jackets. Sadly, this string of shows and the nostalgic moments that come with them could quite possibly be a one-and-done.

There’s one question that the guys didn’t anticipate being asked: What’s next for B2K? They joke about a 2019 album continuing that “ghetto superstar” pizzaz, but their brazen laughs and round-about ways of answering the question at hand shows the group’s next steps are the furthest thing from their minds. Instead, the focus lies on their individual paths, which potentially includes solo projects from each member after the Millennium Tour’s hype dissolves. The self-care, however, starts now. With less than one-fourth of the tour left, B2K reveals Raz-B made a “brave decision” to not perform during their three-show streak in Florida “as he embarks on this self-care journey.”

“At the end of the day, we’re all grown men and we all live our own separate lives,” Fizz reveals during a short intermission in the tour schedule. “It’s not like we’re brothers and best friends and hang out after the tour. Everybody’s home. I haven’t spoken to any of them. They haven’t spoken to me. And you know, that’s just that. It’s business, but we know what it is. When we come together, the spirit takes over.”

Fizz’s outrightly honest words land as brutally as the realization that the cast of Friends won’t be meeting at Central Perk anymore. It stings, but it’s reality. B2K’s brotherhood is by no means artificial. We’ve seen it up close backstage, at intimate shoots, and on arena stages. “The love is there,” Raz says. “Even when you dislike them for a moment or you guys got into a miscommunication, if we can come back to a cohesive space of love, then you’re cool.” So if by chance fans get to see the group together again—on wax, on screen, on stage— it’ll have to be left in the unpredictable hands of timing.

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Photographer:  Matthew Salacuse Photo Assistant: Carl Chisolm Stylist: Mickey Freeman, Winnie StaCkz Concert Videographer: Jason Chandler BTS Videographer: Kristen White

Additional Style Credits (Header/Cover Image) | Omarion | Coat: Yves Saint Laurent, Pant: Fear of God, Necklace: Talent's own, Boots: Yeezy, Sunglasses: Versace // Lil Fizz | Sunglasses: Tom Ford, Shirt: Hakan Akkaya, Pant: Huf Worldwide, Shoes: Top Owens Collection, Necklace: Cartier // Raz B | Hat: FreeMen By Mickey, Jacket and Pant: Hakan Akkaya, T-shirt: Dissimilis, Boots: Louis Vuitton, Sunglasses: Rayban, Watch: Valdecio Collection // J-Boog | Blazer, Necklace and Sunglasses: Versace, Leather Tie and Pant: Hakan Akkaya, Boots: Angela Mitchell

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