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Gina Rodriguez To Expand Movement Mondays In A Major Way, Details New 'Carmen Sandiego' Series

"Somebody else’s success it not your failure."

Gina Rodriguez is nestled inside her Los Angeles studio, appearing fresh-faced as usual. While she's digesting her breakfast—coffee in one hand, I'm fighting the itis after inhaling a rather ginormous soup from a local New York deli. "Girl, don't fall asleep on me!" she laughs, fishing for my face as she peers into her computer screen. "Fight it, girl, fight it. We gotta talk."

Adjusting her stool and flipping through what appears to be a script, the Jane the Virgin star feels familiar. We do not immediately jump into the purpose of our online meeting. She and I engage in brief chatter about the day's course and how each of us is holding up. Even over technology, Rodriguez – if nothing at all – oozes authenticity, giving off real homegirl vibes from miles away. She sucks her teeth and cusses, sashaying between colloquialism and slang, rolling her neck all the while—refreshing to say the least.

After announcing she'd be breathing new life into the classic character of Carmen Sandiego, the Chi-city native partnered with telecommunications conglomerate AT&T, starring in a commercial ad championing impossibility—a concept the Golden Globe-winning actress holds to heart. We delve into the details of the upcoming Netflix revival, immigration reform, alternative teaching, and building on her social media series Movement Mondays with the intentions of one day introducing the program to schools.

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VIBE Viva: The concept behind your partnership with AT&T is one of impossibility. How do you live your life unlimited and boundless?
Gina Rodriguez: It's by choice. I live it because I understand that my journey is something that I can craft. The things that are in my control are definitely going to be by the standards of living my life with integrity, respect, and love. So, that’s what I’ll be doing all the time. I mean, I do believe it’s as simple as a choice.

As someone of Puerto Rican descent and from Chicago – a melting pot in its own right – where do you stand on immigration reform?
To dream of opportunity and freedom and to not believe in immigration reform is most definitely to be against everything that this country was founded on. We are a country of immigrants, dude. Nobody was from here. The only people that were from here, are the people we’re trying to kick out, which is obnoxious. It’s the craziest, most backward concept I’ve ever heard of, and it is all fear based. It’s all fear based.

I was actually just in Fresno state, and there were a lot of undocumented students, and they asked me—some of them had already joined DACA and whatnot, they were like so, what advice can you give me? And I told them besides obviously joining DACA and protecting yourself, I have no advice. You are stronger than I will ever be. You are stronger than I have ever been. To believe that you are a part of a country and because you weren’t born here, they’re going to kick you out to another country that you’ve never even known a day in your life—that’s just crazy. To leave your family. So backwards.

You have your Movement Mondays series, which I really love.
Thank you.

Do you plan on developing that into some kind of program that could possibly be implemented in schools?
I am now, because you said it! Hello! My manager’s out there. Do you hear this woman? That’s what I’m talking about. We need you. Take her information down… We’re currently working on making Movement Mondays bigger than it is to reach more people, to continue to highlight and uplift.

One thing Oprah did was she opened the doors for people’s success. It was like you went on the Oprah show, and your book is about to get sold. You know what I’m saying? You went on the Oprah show, and your fitness program is about to skyrocket. You know, she was the gateway to making sure that people were not only informed about these artists, these creatives, these innovators, these entrepreneurs, but she gave them a platform to fly. That's what I want to do, that's how I want to grow this.

#MovementMondays Rizwan “Riz” Ahmed Riz, also known as Riz MC, is an English actor and rapper. His parents moved to England from Karachi, Sindh, Pakistan during the 1970s. Riz has played several roles that have dealt with racial and Islamic stereotypes. He has even been outspoken about being racially profiled at airports especially through his music. It first happened in 2006 when he was on his way back from the Berlin film festival where he had promoted the independent film The Road to Guantanamo. He says he was illegally detained, questioned and threatened. He went on to write a song inspired this experience called “Post 9/11 Blues.” In 2016, Riz starred as Nazir Khan in The Night Of, a college student wrongly accused of murder – a crime that unleashes a simmering undercurrent of racism and Islamophobia. While on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, Riz said “This is what British looks like. It looks like me. It looks like Idris Elba. And hopefully through Nasir Khan, America can see it’s what Americans look like, too.” In an article in the Guardian, Riz has stated that there are three career stages of any minority actor - “Stage one is the two-dimensional stereotype – the minicab driver/terrorist/cornershop owner.” Stage two challenges the stereotype. And stage three “is the promised land, where you play a character whose story is not intrinsically linked to their race. There I am not a terror suspect, nor a victim of forced marriage. There, my name might even be Dave.” Riz just appeared in Star Wars: Rogue One.

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And she laid a blueprint.
Right. So, Movement Mondays came out of the #OscarsSoWhite, about a year and a half ago. And everybody was yelling, yelling, yelling. Everybody was so upset, and I get it. Trust me, because there was definitely a moment where I was just like, damn. Damn. Like, come on. Because it was so sad to feel so helpless. The same way sometimes I feel in our political arena. You feel so helpless. You feel like just one. How am I supposed to do anything that’s going to make anything progress? And so out of that feeling of helplessness, came the movement.

I’m chilling on set, and I’m like okay. At that point I had a million followers. I’m like, alright, at least a million people will hear about a homegirl that you know, who doesn’t have as many followers or that has a movie coming out this weekend. The least I can do is advertise that, right? You know what I’m saying? [Because] at least I can reach that many people. At least I can help in that way. That feels not so helpless. Now I’m like, okay I don’t feel as helpless now. Now I feel like I’m creating a solution. It felt like okay, every week I can highlight somebody. I am not afraid of other people’s success. I’m not afraid to put somebody on.

What a concept.
Right? What a concept. How crazy! Something that we need to culturally change. Somebody else’s success it not your failure—somebody else’s success is not your failure.

You are about to breathe new life into the classic character of Carmen Sandiego. How did that come about and what can fans expect from this version?
So, it is the origin story of Carmen Sandiego. It is so tight, so well written. It’s unbelievable. It’s going to be… I mean, I don’t know—which one did you see? Did you see the PBS one? Were you a video gamer? Did you see the animation?

"Don't ask where ... ask who." @Netflix (just call me Carmen 😉)

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I watched PBS.
Ok, that was my jumpoff, too. It’s vastly different. It is going through the story of Carmen Sandiego, her origin story and why she’s such a badass—she’s like a Robin Hood thief. She’s exactly what I want to be in life. Maybe not a thief [Laugh], but you know what I mean.
You can expect a really, really good series. Really well read and well written. You know how Netflix be doing, they just don’t disappoint. We have really great partners for the illustration. It is going to be a really awesome journey. And still geographical, still giving you education, and history. So, it’s pretty tight. A little old school Carmen San Diego, but you’re going to learn some things, like I did. In a very entertaining way. It is much more entertaining than when we were shorties. [Laughs]

If Gina Rodriguez wasn’t a Golden Globe-winning actress, who would she be?
I’d be a teacher.

Yea, girl, because – it’s hilarious – it’s another opportunity for me to be at the head of the class, and everybody shuts up and they have to listen to me. [Laughs] I realized that last night. I did a SAG foundation conversation and they asked the same question. And I’ve always wanted to be a teacher. But I realized last night like—ooh, but why? Because then people still have to listen to me talk! Which is terrible. [Laughs] But seriously, I love being in a position where I can not only educate others – because that’s something we [should] all be doing constantly, and evolving – but to encourage an alternative kind of schooling… Love, self love, acceptance, empathy. Do you know what I’m saying? We have to teach these babies how to be empathetic.

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10 Most Important Hip-Hop Artists Of 2018

We’ve reached another end to an eventful year in hip-hop. From rap beefs to new music releases and milestones, 2018 has been forged in the history books as a year to remember. But more important than the events that happened over the span of 12 months are the people who made them happen.

While fans received a large dose of music from our favorite artists and celebrated some of the most iconic album anniversaries, there are a few names that stood out as the culture pushers, sh*t starters, and all-around most significant artists of the year.

For your enjoyment, VIBE compiled a list of the top 10 most important hip-hop artists of 2018 based on a series of qualifications: 1) public actions - good, bad, and ugly; 2) music releases; 3) philanthropic/humanitarian work; and 4) trending moments.

Be clear: This list isn’t about the most influential, the most talented, who had the best music or tours. While we are commemorating artists for the work they’ve contributed to this year’s music cycle, we’re looking beyond that and evaluating how these particular artists have shaped conversations and pushed hip-hop culture forward.

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NEXT: Intent On Impact, Kiana Lede Is Ready To Leave Her Mark

After learning The Alphabet Song as a little girl, Kiana Lede would always “get in trouble” for singing during class. “My mom was like, ‘why can't you focus?’” she laughs while reminiscing on her career’s formative years. “I was like, ‘I don’t know! Songs are just playing in my head all the time!’”

Whilst sitting in a shoebox-sized room at Midtown Manhattan’s Moxy Hotel on a humid September day, the now- 21-year-old Arizona-bred R&B songbird, actress and pianist speculates that she “may have had ADD.” However, she settles down after taking off her white cowboy boots and flops down on the ivory-clothed bed, demonstrating that her fiery Aries energy can be contained. Cool as a cucumber, Lede shuffles between chewing on banana candies and blowing smoke rings after taking drags from a pen, all while musing about her journey to becoming a Republic Records signee.

“I just grew up singing and doing musical theater, and reading a lot of books, and playing piano way too much in my room by myself,” she says, pushing her big, curly brown hair out of her face. Her expressive green eyes widen as she grins. “It was my thing. Nobody in my family does music, just me.”

After winning Kidz Bop’s 2011 KIDZ Star USA talent contest at 14 (which her mother secretly entered her into), Lede was signed to RCA Records. She was released from her contract and dropped from the label three years later. However, thanks to guidance and friendship from the Grammy-winning production duo Rice N’ Peas, (who’ve worked with G-Eazy, Trevor Jackson, and Bazzi), she released covers of songs such as Drake’s “Hotline Bling” while working to get her groove back. The latter rendition resulted in Republic Record’s Chairman and CEO Monte Lipman flying her out and signing her to his label.

“I got a second chance, which a lot of people don't get,” she reveals. “So I'm really happy that that all happened. I wouldn't be here right now in this room if that didn't happen.”

Thanks to the new opportunity she was given, Lede’s sound has evolved into something she’s proud of—equal parts soul, R&B and bohemian. As evidenced by the aforementioned ensemble, glimmers of each aesthetic can be found when observing her personal style as well. She released her seven-song EP Selfless in July, which features the bedroom-ready “Show Love” and “Fairplay,” which manages to fit in the mainstream R&B vein while also showcasing her goosebump-inducing vocals. The remix of the latter features MC A$AP Ferg. What pleases her most is that it not only garnered a favorable response from fans, but that those listeners found it so relatable.

“As an artist, it's really nerve-wracking for someone who writes about such personal things all the time,” she says. “Just the fact that it is my story… It's good to know that other people know that there's somebody on their side, and they're not the only ones going through it. A lot of people obviously feel this way, and have been through this same thing that I've been through. So I think that's cool.”

Although she moved to various places as a Navy serviceman’s daughter, Lede claims Phoenix as home. This means she hails from the same stomping grounds as rockers Alice Cooper, Stevie Nicks and the late Chester Bennington of Linkin Park. However, growing up in a mixed race household gave way to tons of sonic exploration outside of the rock-heavy scene.

“My dad's black, and both of my parents are from the East Coast,” she says of her musical and ethnic upbringing (she’s black, Latina and Native American). “[My parents] listened to a lot of R&B. My mom listened to a lot of SWV, TLC, Boyz II Men. I didn't realize I knew the songs until I got older. I played a charity show with T-Boz, and I was like 'why do I know these songs?'” Lede also says her father was a fan of neo-soul and gangsta rap, but she personally believes the early-2000s was the best time for music.

“[That era] influences a lot of my music subconsciously, and also, singer-songwriter stuff,” she continues. “I listen to a lot of early-2000s music because I played piano most of my life. I listened to Sara Bareilles, John Mayer.”

An open book, Lede details some of her struggles with anxiety and depression with the utmost candor. After being dropped from RCA, her trust in people diminished, and she experienced long bouts of depression after being sexually assaulted by someone in the industry. The track that she feels most deeply about is “One Of Them Days,” which tackles these issues head-on.

“When I'm anxious and depressed, it's really hard to be happy,” Lede says. “Most of the time, I can do it, but there are just some days where I literally can't separate the anxiety, and I can't tell anybody why, because I don't really know why myself… I was feeling very odd that day, didn't even know if I could write a song. Hue [Strother], the guy who I wrote the song with, he was like 'I totally get you. Lots of people go through this.’’’

As we’ve observed in headlines recently, mental health and being honest about life’s trickier situations can help someone going through the same thing, and Lede hopes her music provides encouragement to those who are struggling. As for how she’s learning to push through her mental health roadblocks, she meditates, runs, and is an advocate for therapy, especially in Trump’s America, where harrowing news reports dominate the cycle.

Another hallmark of Kiana Lede’s personality is her bleeding heart for others. She cites women of color, sexual assault victims and the homeless youth specifically as individuals she feels most responsible to help, since she is personally connected to all three. While she’s aiming to create a project that helps homeless youth specifically, she’s working hard this holiday season to ensure that they have a place to stay “at least for the night” after horrific wildfires displaced many individuals in California.

“My passion is really people. Music is just a way that I can get to helping people,” she says with a grin. “Helping people emotionally and physically are both very important. I never want to stop helping people. I feel if other people can respect me, and I can respect myself, then I'll be happy. Happiness is all that we strive for.”

Recently, Lede played her first headlining solo show, a one-night event at The Mint in Los Angeles. While she was thrilled to see that the show sold-out, she was even happier to see the faces of her audience members, who she said ‘looked like [her].’ “Mixed girls, brown girls, black girls, gay boys,” she explains over-the-phone. Even though she wasn’t in person to discuss her latest huge accomplishment, you could hear the pride and joy through her voice.

As for the future of her career, she’s looking forward to more acting roles. You may recognize her from the first season of MTV’s Scream, and after her recent Netflix series All About The Washingtons with legendary MC Rev Run was cancelled, she has been “reading for auditions” and is “negotiating” for a role in a film set to shoot in NYC. While her time with the Run-DMC frontman was brief, she says he taught her about the importance of “not compromising your art for money.”

What Kiana Lede is most excited about, of course, is making music. She hopes to work on a new EP and then release an album after that. The ultimate goal is to fully realize the dreams in her personal and professional life, and she assures she’s just getting started.

“I want to be able to look back on my career and think 'man, I really poured my heart into this music, and made music that mattered, and made music that made people feel a certain way, whether it's bad, good, sad, anxious, whatever it may be.’”

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THEY. Break Down The Creation Of 'Fireside' EP And Their Unique Group Dynamic

Dante Jones and Drew Love–equally important, yet separate entities THEY.–arrive comfortably late to the listening of their newly released EP, Fireside. Drew, the more personable member of the group, swaggers into the room in a silk button-down. Failing to fasten the first three of the light brown buttons, his soft mocha chest peeks through. Closely following, Jones saunters in physically present but distant from the world around him, in his Friday's best casual fit. Quickly dividing to greet the crowded room of New York City journalists the pair fan out, taking the east and west wings of Esther & Carroll’s Soho eatery by storm.

Tracks from Fireside flow through the speakers like the honest "Broken," a conversational duet with Jessie Reyez and "18 Months," with Ty Dolla $ign. Both songs go further than love at first sight as THEY. speak on the rough parts of an evolving relationship. Overall, the six-track project takes on the progressive side of R&B with a little help from friends like Reyez, Jeremih, and Wiz Khalifa. Inviting outside forces into their world, the musicians are stretching their creative muscles while providing lessons as ear candy to fans.

THEY. is the culmination of a four-year relationship that has left a beast bigger than the fame in its wake. Standing on the precipice of a new subgenre of hip-hop and R&B, the duo has centered their sound around the eclectic flare of rhythm and blues while crashing into a new lane of its own. The members drive down the same road, they ride in two different cars. Fireside’s inspiration stems from the movie The Grey. "[Fireside is] this really interesting scene where all these different people from different walks of life are coming together,” Jones admits.

Much like the exploits of Agents J and K in Men In Black, their collaboration rings true to the futuristic movie series starring Tommie Lee Jones and Will Smith. Easily distinguished by the eager rookie paired with the grumpy veteran, the roles commandeered by Love and Jones can be heard through the cell phone. Cycling through evolution, the self-proclaimed yin and yang constantly battle the forces of dark and light to bring forth harmony in their ever-changing relationship.

At times unable to see eye-to-eye, the East Coast natives have adapted their rocky partnership, fine-tuning the kinks between them, learning to compromise, and most of all made subtle changes to the ways in which they interact with each other. Never expanding on the nature of their true relationship, the past tensions never seep into the conversation. Throwing subtle brotherly love moments during our interview, the artists toss admirable compliments back and forth.

“He understands where I come from because I am very rough around the edges and very abrasive at times,” Love says of his fellow creative. "Dante can be very hard to read at times, but I think it is an ongoing understanding and continual effort to learn to understand the other person and what triggers them and what doesn't trigger them, what their strengths are and what their weakness are. And how to motivate them and how to work together toward the common goal. I think both the work relationship and friendship have continued to evolve in a good way.”

Following the uprising of their movement through the states, their transcendent sound carried them across the pond to New Zealand and Australia, where they were opened for 6LACK earlier this year. receiving a more welcome reception from their overseas counterparts. The good vibes transferred throughout the show brought them one step closer to the aspirations that bond them together.

“The people are beautiful and you know, are not so pretentious and high strung,” Love explained of the best and worst moments in Australia. “The fans are very receptive to any type of music it seems. They just like to go to concerts and have a good time, as opposed to coming to the United States, you'll get someplace that sit there and fold their arms like you are supposed to impress them.”


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Just a few months prior, the duo made their first appearance at Billboard’s Hot 100 Festival. The group caught the short end of the festival stick when their set time clashed with hip-hop acts like Rae Sremmurd and Lil Xan. THEY. was subjected to a crowd cross-armed and unwilling to catch the vibes. Pushing forth a strong performance, the group shattered the hard shells of concert goers, changing their crossed arms and intimidating stares to body rolls and kinder eyes.

As momentum continues for the duo, they've avoided the type of burnout establishing acts normally face. From smaller venues to sold-out arenas, the boys have set their sights on performance meccas like Madison Square Garden. But beyond the surface level goals, THEY. seeks to give the outcasts a place to call home. Leaving their mark on all the generations to come after, former victims of bullying illustrate that life has the opportunity to get better.

“At the end of the day, I want to change the world,” Jones explained. “That's really the goal to change the world and change music and really it only takes one moment. It's like the butterfly effect. We were the first few people to put out the idea of 808's, guitars and pop vocals. Now it's out in the atmosphere and we see a lot more people taking that approach. I feel like ultimately it's circling back our way."

Uncertain about the next trends in R&B, THEY. find themselves ahead of the curve. A few years removed from their first album Nü Religion: Hyena, the two have made strides to perfect their music making formula. Naturally, Dante and Drew are striving to leave a lasting impact on as many people as possible.

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