Interview: The Lucas Brothers Talk The War On Drugs & Why The Rock Would Be The Perfect President

The potential black futurists shelve out plenty of truths in their Netflix special, On Drugs and give VIBE the perfect reason why Dwanye Johnson can rule the free world.  

On Friday (May 12), a tectonic shift occurred on Capitol Hill when attorney general Jeff Sessions overturned an Obama-era policy and incited prosecutors all over the country to give low-level drug offenders the harshest penalties, leaving open a chance to extend mandatory prison sentences. While Sessions denied that his memo would affect low-level crimes, he assured that his agenda would lay a heavier hand on crime than former President Obama and former attorney general Eric Holder. “Drug trafficking is an inherently dangerous and violent business,” Sessions said. “If you want to collect a drug debt, you can’t file a lawsuit in court. You collect it with the barrel of a gun.”

The pressure to extend the exhausting and problematic war on drugs has often gone unnoticed in Trump's administration, given the constant rainfall of other scandals but just weeks earlier, comedic duo Keith and Kenny Lucas shared their thoughts on the matter in the form of their first Netflix stand-up special, Lucas Brothers: On Drugs. Known for their animated series Lucas Bros. Moving Company and cameos in 21 Jump Street and Lady Dynamite, the duo decided to take their first stand-up special in a political, but light note.

The funny men blend their deadpan stoner comedy with their hatred for Richard Nixon, the purveyor of the war on drugs (or what they call the war on ni**as who want to have fun). “One of [Nixon’s] aides, Rob Halderman, even stated that they started the war on drugs to minimise the impact of black folks on the far left,” Keith said. “So there was intent with the policies with Ronald Reagan later doubling down on it.” But the brothers believe there could be one man to bring the earth back to a comforting axis–Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson.

“I think The Rock is the dream that Martin Luther King Jr. talked about,” Kenny explained. “He's a combination of Obama, the celebrity of Trump but the ability to speak like Obama.” The idea of the actor as a post-Trump candidate seems more believable these days since just this week, the Baywatch star toyed around with the idea in his interview with GQ.

The potential black futurists shelve out plenty of truths in the special and our chat, from the joy in OJ Simpson jokes to their dislike for the Trump administration.


VIBE: What inspired the focus for On Drugs?

Kenny: We have been developing our routine for about almost eight years and when we were scanning the material, we noticed there were characteristics between the jokes that connected to a larger topic so from there we thought, we should have it more systematic.

Keith: We decided to focus it more on the war on drugs since it's impacted us in so many ways. First, our dad went to prison and second, it’s tough to get drugs when there's a war being waged against drug dealers. Technically, our material fits into the theme.

I appreciated the balance of social construct and comedy.

Kenny: It's hard to get the message out if you're being overtly political. If you're able to disguise it in a way where you're getting your opinion out there where it's mostly jokes, but people can laugh at the jokes first and get the message later, I think it's more effective.

Who do you hate more: Reagan or Nixon?

Kenny: I have a personal gripe for Reagan, I really hate Reagan, but you gotta go to the first mover, the first person who started it. You have to access their psychology and their intent behind the policy and all evidence seems to suggest that Nixon was racist. He was just a racist guy who didn't like black people so if he's this racist guy and has such a big impact on policies toward black and brown people I mean, I'm not saying that racism caused it, but...

Keith: One of his aides, Rob Halderman, even stated that they started the war on drugs to minimise the impact of black folks on the far left. So there was intent with the policies with Regan later doubling down on it. Also, Clinton doubled down so it's hard to say ‘I hate Regan’ and then leave Clinton out of it since he played a huge role in locking ni**as up.

But he played the sax so ni**as didn't care.

Keith: I didn't know if you read this, but there's a book that says if a president played the sax you can arrest a hundred thousand black people and everyone would be okay with it.

Word, it would be no problem at all. The Trump administration seems to find themselves crumbling from the inside. Do you think there’s going to be any "real change" in the president’s leadership?

Kenny: That's not going to happen.

Keith: When you have a gangsta, it’s gonna end one way. Every second we're speaking, a law is being broken by this administration. It's sort of an infectious impact on the rest of his minions so they're doubling down on the rhetoric. They haven't seemed to think of pivoting to get these policies in place. Sessions is a warrior so he's not going to change. These guys are 65 plus, they've established their opinions and the way they see the world.

Kenny: These old dudes, they're not concerned about the younger generation at all. They're going to wage these wars and just assume that the young people are going to fight it. I think young people need to say, "F**k that, f**k you guys, we didn't vote for you and we're not going to fight in any baseless wars and if you guys try to put us in any baseless wars, we're gonna revolt."

Keith: How is it that they allow 65 years olds to determine who goes to war when they don't even have to fight?

They can't even fight.

Keith: They can't even drive! F**k them.

Kenny: Yea it's just a bunch of old white dudes f**king up the world.

The situation is very wild but if you had to choose another entertainer to rule the free world, who would it be?

Keith: For the free world? There's only one man who can do this.

Kenny: He's the most electrifying man in entertainment and that's The Rock. I think The Rock is the dream that Martin Luther King Jr. talked about, he's a combination of Obama, the celebrity of Trump but the ability to speak like Obama.

Keith: And he's just a bada** dude. He's already got catchphrases. He's the people's champ so you can use that on the campaign easily.

Kenny: "Smell what the Rock is cooking."

Keith: You can use that.

Kenny: When he's in a debate with someone he can just say, "It doesn't matter what this guy says."

Keith: He has the perfect resume. I'd vote for him if he was a Republican or a Democrat.

Kenny: I don't care what he is. He's a perfect combination of Arnold Schwarzenegger, Obama and Trump.

Keith: And he'll be the second black president.

Kenny: He should run in 2020.

Keith: He should! F**k it.


If that was to happen, it would be pretty awesome. I saw in the stand up that you guys had a plethora of OJ jokes. What's the best thing about coming up with them?

Kenny: Buried in our subconscious, for black men at least, is ‘Damn, OJ got away. He committed the worst crime against a white person and got away with it.’ So subconsciously, we're like, ‘Let's have a little fun with this and relive the moment.’

Keith: I'm obsessed with the case and with OJ as a character, I mean obviously it's a tragedy, but when it's had such an influential role on how we see TV and the legal system and how we see race in America. You can't help but formulate ideas around it, especially as comedians sometimes those beliefs turn into jokes. It's just one of those things you have to say about it because why not? Everyone else has.

Yeah, that's very true. I like the one about the stabbing.

Kenny: I'm sure white people didn't find it funny.

They'll be alright. Why do you guys love (or hate) Kazaam so much?

Kenny: It's definitely a love/hate thing.

I used to watch Lucas Bros. Moving Company and I remember it being referenced on there and so I wondered if you guys really liked it or not.

Keith: It's just one of those things that stand out in my childhood. So anything that was relevant when I was a child, but it's subjectively a horrible movie. But Shaq as a genie so you can't look away. Why is he in a genie uniform? He can't rap, he can't act, he's a huge genie.

Kenny: It was Touchstone Pictures and Interscope. None of these companies are around anymore.

It’s funny since there’s an online theory that in another universe, Sinbad starred in Kazaam. Do you guys believe in the idea of the multiverse?

Kenny: [Not the Sinbad theory] but with the multiverse, It's the only thing that makes mathematical sense. We can only see 4.9 percent of the observable universe. So that means there's a vast universe we can't see and even with us trying to explain the 4.9 percent that we can observe makes me think that what we can't see is even more inexplicable.

What would be going on in that universe right now?

Kenny: Here's my theory and it could be farfetched cause I'm still hungover from yesterday (April 21), but there's a universe for every possible outcome for every action you take. Every permutation that your life can take, there's a universe that exists for that. And that's true for seven billion people so you have to calculate the permeate and the other living things.

Keith: Everything is and isn't.

Kenny: How did we get to the cosmos?

We're spinning! I'll bring it back. Do you guys plan on making a return to the animated world? I really enjoyed the end of the special.

Keith: We want to. We're currently developing a TV show with TBS. It takes place in an alternate universe (laughs). It's a magical alternate universe where we get stuck and we have to go to a magic college and we sort of have to go through certain events to get back to our universe.

Kenny: And this is a historically black magic universe.

Keith: So it's like an HBCU, but more a hybrid of magic university so we're getting taught black magic and how to defend wizards against the universe. It's gonna be super trippy.

Anything else you guys wanna add?

Keith: They should check out the special if you're fans of our comedy or if you're not fans and hate us and want to leave a negative review, then still watch it.

Stream the Lucas Brothers: On Drugs over at Netflix.

From the Web

More on Vibe

Dimitrios Kambouris

Halle Berry Receives Praise For Refusing To Skip Black Journalists On Red Carpet

Halle Berry is receiving all the praise at the moment, not only for her latest role in the new John Wick movie but for refusing to skip two interviews with a pair of black journalists on the red carpet.

Emerald Marie, a reporter from Where Is The Buzz TV, was one just two black journalists who were sent to the premiere of John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum. Emerald recalled being excited to interview the Oscar winner, but was quickly cut off by the actress' publicist. Instead of walking away, however, Berry made the decision to turn around and speak with Emerald and the other black male journalist, Lamar Dawson.

“I can't skip my brother and sister,"  Berry said, according to Marie.

The latest incident is unfortunately common for black journalists and media companies. "Oftentimes, black reporters and black outlets are pushed to the end and unable to get the proper interview that they need,” Marie explained. Because of Berry's generosity, Marie said she has a "newfound respect" for the actress.

Dawson also released a statement to VIBE about his interaction with Berry. "Emerald and I were standing next to each other on the carpet and were discussing how too often Black reporters are skipped at these events--and then it nearly happened to us. It's a big issue that needs to be addressed. Our stories deserve to be told, too," he said. "When Halle came back, I was able to talk to her quickly about her show 'Boomerang' and how important it is for the show to feature Black, LGBTQ storylines--an interview question the mainstream outlets aren't going to ask thus underscoring the importance of diversity in newsrooms and the importance of outlets that seek to give a voice to marginalized people. I'm grateful for Halle for seeing us out there."

John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum starring Keanu Reeves and Halle Berry hit theaters today (May 17). Check out Emerald Marie and Lamar Dawson's full recaps from the red carpet below.


View this post on Instagram


I wanted to share this story because so often we hear people say “support black business” We all know it’s hard being the Minortity in many industries! For Halle Berry to make a conscious effort to turn back around and make sure the only two black faces we recognized & allocated the time to get our coverage is just another reason why she is a Leader & Queen 👑 @halleberry ❤️‼️🎤 #blackbrandsmatter #johnwick3 #blackreporters thank you @whereisthebuzz for this platform

A post shared by @ on May 15, 2019 at 6:34pm PDT


View this post on Instagram


Last week, I shared a story about how too often Black journalists are often skipped on red carpets, but at the “John Wick 3” premiere I was covering, Halle Berry came back to talk to me and the only other Black reporter, The story has been getting traction and Halle was asked about it today at another premiere by @hay_itslay and I am deeply moved by her response and the response from many of you. I hope it sparks much needed change in the industry. ✊🏾

A post shared by LAMAR DAWSON (@dirrtykingofpop) on May 16, 2019 at 2:35pm PDT

Continue Reading
Jemal Countess

Uzo Aduba To Play Shirley Chisholm In Upcoming FX Series

Actress Uzo Aduba is reportedly slated to portray legendary congresswoman, Shirley Chisholm in the upcoming series, Mrs. America for FX, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

The Orange Is the New Black actress reportedly verified the reports on Twitter on Tuesday (May 14). The series will follow the backlash surrounding the movement to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA), THR reports. Aduba joins Cate Blanchett, Sarah Paulson, and other all-star actresses.

ERA, which prohibited gender discrimination, was introduced in Congress in 1923 but has yet to become law. Chisholm, who became the first black woman to serve in Congress and the first black woman in the United States to run for a major party’s presidential nomination, was a prominent advocate for ERA before she died in 2005.

Dahvi Waller wrote the nine-episode series and will also serve as the show's executive producer. Mrs. America is set to premiere on FX in 2020.

Continue Reading
Kevin Winter

Will Smith And Queen Latifah To Produce Hip-Hop 'Romeo & Juliet' For Netflix

Will Smith and Queen Latifah are joining forces to produce a film that blends hip-hop and Shakespeare. The pair are reportedly gearing up to produce an upcoming hip-hop musical of Romeo & Juliet for Netflix, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

The film will be a contemporary musical on Shakspeare's romantic tragedy that is set in New York City. The updated rendition will portray a young waitress from Brooklyn who falls in love with an aspiring musician from a wealthy family.

Solvan "Slick" Naim will reportedly direct from a script he wrote with Dave Broome. Latifah will produce the musical through her Flavor Unit Entertainment banner. Smith will act as an executive producer under his Overbrook Entertainment, with James Lassiter and Caleeb Pinkett.

Hip-hop and Shakespeare might sound like they don't miss, but you probably forgot that Baz Luhrmann's 1996 Romeo + Juliet. The film, which starred a young Leonardo DiCaprio, also took a more urban, hip-hop approach.

It's unclear when the upcoming musical will hit Netflix at this time.

Continue Reading

Top Stories