Podcasts are ridiculously popular thanks to the freeing and filterless conversation that ensues between unlikely characters. So when Mike Tyson tapped Eminem for his latest episode of Hotboxin’ With Mike Tyson, we should have expected what would happen next.
Em and Tyson enjoyed discussing the rapper’s impeccable career and then some. The conversation hit an awkward bump at the 45:55 mark when Tyson compared Em’s life to the Black experience.
“Everything you got was, f**kin’—not even given to you,” Tyson said. “You f**kin’ slaved for it, you know what I mean? You’re the only white guy that knows what it’s like to be a n***a.”
“Not sure how to answer that,” the rapper nervously responded. “But, uh, nah man. It’s uh … I mean, you know, we all got our story.”
We totally do. Don’t let slave movies confuse you. The Black experience isn’t always embroiled in pain but I guess we all say silly things in front of rap legends.
Elsewhere in the interview, the rapper discussed his viral Oscars performance of “Lose Yourself” which Eminem himself has refused to watch. “I’mma tell you why I’m making that face,” he said at the 31:07 mark about his frustrations over the performances.
“Because when I went there, everything was cool, right? I go through the first verse, and they had the mic pack that you wear on your belt and I’m rappin’, and all of sudden I see between my legs, the motherf**kin’ pack swinging.”
He tried to save the performance but was able to grab the mic pack before the song came to an end. “So I’m rapping the lyrics while I’m doing this, and then I’m like, ‘Man, I’ll just put it in my front pocket. F**k it. By that time, the song’s over, and I’m, like, ‘Man, what the f**k?’ We rehearsed for that s**t—I know the words to ‘Lose Yourself,’ right—but we rehearsed that s**t extra, extra, extra just so we didn’t f**k that up. And then that was the one thing we didn’t plan for, and of course it went wrong … I haven’t watched it.”
When it comes to the best parts of his life, Eminem has fatherhood to thank. He’s helped raise two of his nieces in addition to his daughter Hallie. “I have a niece that I have help raised too that’s pretty much like a daughter to me and she is 26,” he says. “And I have a younger one that’s 17 now. So when I think about my accomplishments that’s probably the thing I’m the most proud of is that—is being able to raise kids.”
Check out the interview above.