Today’s (Nov. 23) episode of NBC News’ Meet The Press turned into a heated discussion between former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani and Georgetown professor Michael Eric Dyson. With the looming grand jury decision in Ferguson at the center of their talk with host Chuck Todd, Giuliani’s “reason for the heavy police presence in the black community” took the conversation down a controversial road.
Commenting on the disparities between the number of black community members and black police officers around the U.S., Giuliani thought it wise to bring up another point he deemed more important: blacks killing other blacks. He called the Mike Brown case an “exception.”
“I find it very disappointing that you’re not discussing the fact that 93 percent of blacks in America are killed by other blacks,” he said. “We are talking about a significant exception. I’d like to see the attention paid to that, that you are paying to this, and the solutions to that.”
Dyson chimed in with the matter-of-fact notion that criminals and officers of the law should not be upheld to the same standards of social responsibility, and that they are often jailed while police officers are not. Giuliani suggested that he was protesting the wrong issue.
“What about the poor black child that is killed by another black child? Why aren’t you protesting that,” the former New York mayor said.
As Todd intervened to stop the argument, Giuliani placed the blame of the presence of white officers on the black communities themselves.
“The white police officers wouldn’t be there if you weren’t killing each other 75% of the time.”
Watch Rudy Giuliani and Michael Eric Dyson go at it in the video above.